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I hear you both, but with CAD within its low last couple of months, gross margin would at least account for some currency risk, and this wouldn't be insignificant. But I guess you guys at S&M know better. And I'm sorry if I'm mixing the terms up, I'm no finance person :-)

But even at very low margin, producing a $300 suit in Canada would be challenging, wouldn't it? I mean you still need a human to run machine through all the seams? That only scales to a certain point...

 

My guess, this was a test program. Smaller in scale to start and a capacity the Canadian supplier can deal with. Amazon also saves on shipping and duties by making the suits in Canada. But, my guess is as the suits check out, and they require larger volume, the supplier will not be able to meet the demand and they will eventually have to move production to Asia.

 

I wish we were in a position to manufacture here.

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My guess, this was a test program. Smaller in scale to start and a capacity the Canadian supplier can deal with. Amazon also saves on shipping and duties by making the suits in Canada. But, my guess is as the suits check out, and they require larger volume, the supplier will not be able to meet the demand and they will eventually have to move production to Asia.

I wish we were in a position to manufacture here.

That makes sense... Someone like Amazon can afford to "buy the market".
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Just found this thread and I am reading through it now but what's the best deal on pocket squares in Toronto? Can be online or in store. I need to build my collection from scratch basically. Thanks in advance :)

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Just found this thread and I am reading through it now but what's the best deal on pocket squares in Toronto? Can be online or in store. I need to build my collection from scratch basically. Thanks in advance :)

 

eBay. There is a user scarvesilove that sells a bunch, also styleunicorn has some nice Drake's, and I personally am not afraid of buying abroad as a small, pliable package is not likely to get hit with duties in my experience.

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Hey guys, need advice from people who have had issues with Harry Rosen.

I ordered two Tilford suits recently in 39R. They were stock singles, not MTM. That is, I picked the fabric and they would have it made in whatever model I wanted (I chose Ashton).

in store, the Ashton has a boc of 30'. The suits I got came with a boc of 29'.

I had the trousers tailored before realizing I got a short jacket.

So I've asked that I exchange the suits and do a do over. Now they want me to speak to their GM to talk about the issues with the suits. They don't sound too eager to replace them.

I paid full price for the suits and expected the same measurements as found on their OTR models, which I was told I was getting.

Anybody have any idea what I can expect?
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Hey guys, need advice from people who have had issues with Harry Rosen.

I ordered two Tilford suits recently in 39R. They were stock singles, not MTM. That is, I picked the fabric and they would have it made in whatever model I wanted (I chose Ashton).

in store, the Ashton has a boc of 30'. The suits I got came with a boc of 29'.

I had the trousers tailored before realizing I got a short jacket.

So I've asked that I exchange the suits and do a do over. Now they want me to speak to their GM to talk about the issues with the suits. They don't sound too eager to replace them.

I paid full price for the suits and expected the same measurements as found on their OTR models, which I was told I was getting.

Anybody have any idea what I can expect?

They will make it right 100% IMO.
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I'm looking at getting a suit in April for June. Currently, most of my suits are OTR and do not fit well anymore. I am thinking of spending ~$1000 for either MTM or Bespoke (can i get bespoke ~$1500?). Would it be smarter to purchase 2 cheaper MTM suits at $500-600 or one higher quality one? I don't wear suits too often, maybe 5-10 times a year.

What recommendations do we have for stores in Toronto?
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@Mojomojo
Check out The Dirty Inc. over on King East. JS Vann does an MTM suit starting at a 1000. All made in Canada with great workmanship and the service is excellent.
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+1 on the Dirty Inc. My new tailor going forward. JS is great to work with

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Originally Posted by Mojomojo View Post

I'm looking at getting a suit in April for June. Currently, most of my suits are OTR and do not fit well anymore. I am thinking of spending ~$1000 for either MTM or Bespoke (can i get bespoke ~$1500?). Would it be smarter to purchase 2 cheaper MTM suits at $500-600 or one higher quality one? I don't wear suits too often, maybe 5-10 times a year.

What recommendations do we have for stores in Toronto?

 

Since your suits do not fit well anymore, do I assume correctly that they fit well at one point, but no longer?  If it's a matter of weight gain or loss, do you feel that you no OTR suits will fit you at all?  Keep in mind that MTM - unlike true bespoke - merely involves small alterations to existing OTR sizes and patterns.  If MTM will work, OTR plus a good alterations tailor will probably work as well.

 

You can often find fully canvassed Samuelsohn suits on sale at the Rosen outlets for $500-600.  You could do a whole lot worse with your available funds.  You couldn't hope to do a whole lot better.  I picked up this lovely flannel three-piece there a couple years back for $500.

 

 

Hosting provided by FotoTime Problem is that it's hit an miss - you have to pass by and see what they have from time to time. There's no guarantee that on the day you go, you will find a suit you are looking for that drastically reduced. But then they do seem to have some sort of sale every second week.

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Originally Posted by casadisartoria View Post

@Mojomojo
Check out The Dirty Inc. over on King East. JS Vann does an MTM suit starting at a 1000. All made in Canada with great workmanship and the service is excellent.

 

Thanks, just looked over their site and there doesn't seem to be much information, but I will send them an email or drop by. 

 

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Since your suits do not fit well anymore, do I assume correctly that they fit well at one point, but no longer?  If it's a matter of weight gain or loss, do you feel that you no OTR suits will fit you at all?  Keep in mind that MTM - unlike true bespoke - merely involves small alterations to existing OTR sizes and patterns.  If MTM will work, OTR plus a good alterations tailor will probably work as well.

 

You can often find fully canvassed Samuelsohn suits on sale at the Rosen outlets for $500-600.  You could do a whole lot worse with your available funds.  You couldn't hope to do a whole lot better.  I picked up this lovely flannel three-piece there a couple years back for $500.

 

Hosting provided by FotoTimeProblem is that it's hit an miss - you have to pass by and see what they have from time to time. There's no guarantee that on the day you go, you will find a suit you are looking for that drastically reduced. But then they do seem to have some sort of sale every second week.

 

Previously with my OTR suits, I think they fit relatively well after a bit of tailoring (possibly also because my expectations were low). With OTR, it's hard to find one that fits nicely now because of my body/weight/height. Being shorter + going to the gym + having a big bum doesn't help.

 

If I were to go with an OTR suit, it would probably cost considerably less, but maybe doesn't fit like a glove? I guess if MTM and OTR + tailoring is about the same, I may have to find a good tailor to point out what can/cannot work.

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For the Oly lifters among us, just like last time round, $83 AdiPowers - tax in, free express shipping. White/Black colourway. No conditions!

 

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Originally Posted by Mojomojo View Post
 

 

Thanks, just looked over their site and there doesn't seem to be much information, but I will send them an email or drop by. 

 

 

Previously with my OTR suits, I think they fit relatively well after a bit of tailoring (possibly also because my expectations were low). With OTR, it's hard to find one that fits nicely now because of my body/weight/height. Being shorter + going to the gym + having a big bum doesn't help.

 

If I were to go with an OTR suit, it would probably cost considerably less, but maybe doesn't fit like a glove? I guess if MTM and OTR + tailoring is about the same, I may have to find a good tailor to point out what can/cannot work.

Yes, the website does not give too much information but you may be able to get a sense of the suits he's done through the IG feed. He's good with emails so you can ask him what you need through there. Alternatively, just hit bookings and schedule yourself for a design meeting with him. He'll go over the whole process with you including fabrics, fittings, pricing, etc. Shirts are reasonable too, at 150 each. Best of luck!

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Hey guys,

As a followup to the grenadine discussion earlier, Harry's now carries solid grenadines by Drake (fina grossa).
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

Since your suits do not fit well anymore, do I assume correctly that they fit well at one point, but no longer?  If it's a matter of weight gain or loss, do you feel that you no OTR suits will fit you at all?  Keep in mind that MTM - unlike true bespoke - merely involves small alterations to existing OTR sizes and patterns.  If MTM will work, OTR plus a good alterations tailor will probably work as well.

You can often find fully canvassed Samuelsohn suits on sale at the Rosen outlets for $500-600.  You could do a whole lot worse with your available funds.  You couldn't hope to do a whole lot better.  I picked up this lovely flannel three-piece there a couple years back for $500.


orig.jpg Problem is that it's hit an miss - you have to pass by and see what they have from time to time. There's no guarantee that on the day you go, you will find a suit you are looking for that drastically reduced. But then they do seem to have some sort of sale every second week.

Deets on tie and shirt?
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