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Originally Posted by nqtri View Post

I assumed you've tried on LodinG and AE. What's your take on the quality between these two? 

I have owned 5 pairs of AE now down to 1 and have handled LodinG in store. Strictly speaking to quality I find AE to use better leather across the board whereas LodinG ranges from decent to good in some models while others leave a lot to be desired. Construction wise both are similar that is to say they are not the most finely finished in terms of the welt but more than adequate for the price, especially at what LodinG retails.
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Originally Posted by MTLinStyle View Post

YMMV, but I took delivery of nice SL norvegese captoe boots that were 145Euro (remember SL takes off VAT) plus 40 Euro shipping, so that's about 275 CAD, when they arrived I got hit about 75 CAD (duty, GST, PST), so that is 350 CAD, tax in. How is that a Carmina territory? Also, not sure why would you ship to China? This is a Toronto thread, isn't it?

Do you own any LoDing shoes? Have you handled them? It is not even AE level, it more like Aldo category, I don't see any advantage they have over SL or Meermin.

I agree they are not AE level but wouldn't go so far as to say they are Aldo level. Never handled SL so I won't pass judgment there but I have handled Meermin and feel they are quite comparable in that they are good shoes for the price but the attention to detail is a bit lacking. The one advantage for LodinG, at least to me, is that we are able to try them on in person and assess the quality before making a purchase.
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Originally Posted by MTLinStyle View Post

YMMV, but I took delivery of nice SL norvegese captoe boots that were 145Euro (remember SL takes off VAT) plus 40 Euro shipping, so that's about 275 CAD, when they arrived I got hit about 75 CAD (duty, GST, PST), so that is 350 CAD, tax in. How is that a Carmina territory? Also, not sure why would you ship to China? This is a Toronto thread, isn't it?

Do you own any LoDing shoes? Have you handled them? It is not even AE level, it more like Aldo category, I don't see any advantage they have over SL or Meermin.

That's a bit harsh don't you think? I'm just saying what my options are, much like how you said you got your grenadine ties in Montreal. This is a Toronto thread yeah?

Secondly, no, I have not had the pleasure of trying on SL. I wasn't aware they refund VAT. Regardless to say that they are Aldo level is severely underrating them, have you held a pair of Aldo's premium Mr. B line? Not even close. What are you basing leather quality on? Suppleness, grain? You honestly think Aldo uses full grain?

Full disclosure, I don't own SL or LodinG. I am just pursuing what we can get locally without having to risk the shoes not fitting and having to ship them back or flip them.
post #2928 of 4630
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Originally Posted by MTLinStyle View Post

I wouldn't pay that much for 7fold Borelli or Kiton, forget about Eton. Eton ties for me should be at $30-40. You can find them at that level 2/ times a year at Harry's

Agree. I don't even think Eton ties deserve that price range. I do get my ties from Harry's sales but I can only enjoy Canali or Drake's (especially their hand-rolled tip ties). Prices should come down to around $80 but the feel from Canali ties are brilliant. 

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I like Canali ties over Eton a lot too. Just feels better and I get better knots. BTW, where do you get your Drake's in Toronto? Or just online?

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Originally Posted by gingham89 View Post
 

I like Canali ties over Eton a lot too. Just feels better and I get better knots. BTW, where do you get your Drake's in Toronto? Or just online?

I got them online and shipped it to my nearest Harry's for free. The selection of Drake's is limited though.

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To say that Loding are complete crap or at par with Aldo is either gross exaggeration or ignorance. They're not great, but at just over 300 bucks they are a good addition to what used to be a shoe desert in Toronto (and Canada generally) just a few years ago. I own two pairs (suede chukkas and suede oxfords) and yea, they're not the best but they certainly beat Aldo or J&M; they are close to SuSu shoes, actually, which, again, are not great but they're not super expensive either.
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I dropped by Loding last summer, and I thought the quality was commensurate with the price. That said, some of the lasts were bordering on vulgar, so I can see the Aldo comparison in that sense. Though the shoes fit, I passed. As with AE, I decided I would regret not holding out for something better.

post #2933 of 4630

I would place Allen Edmonds above Loding in terms of quality and finish. However, for the price Loding's are a perfectly reasonable option. I would say they're best as an occasional shoe, particularly given the selection of lasts, whereas AEs make a better workhorse. 

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I know this has been asked already (and I think the overall rating is I should go to Xavier), but can anyone recommend other tailors that are a little closer to Etobicoke (west end)?

I am looking to have someone let me know if the SuitSupply suit I have is worth the alteration/fixing. I know of one tailor in the Yonge and Eglinton area (I forgot her name. She is British I believe and seems to know what she's talking about), but if there is anyone else in the Etobicoke/West end/Port Credit area it will really help.
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Such hate for Loding... what have I done?!?!?!?!?!? 

I think the comparisons to Aldo are not fair.  Aldo is a mall brand and Loding is at least a GYW with full grain leather.  The level of finish and detail I would say are not on par with brands like J. Fitzpatrik, Carmina etc... but at their price, they're not meant to be at that level.  At $300 they're a pretty good entry level shoe to the GYW field. I did find their last to be a bit too elongated tho.

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Shameless plug for @Jokb

Here is an example of his impeccable service in both Vass and shoe shines:

Before and after the shine (walked in the heavy rain 2 weeks ago on their maiden voyage)
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Amazon's suits made in Canada? Wonder who in Canada can make a suit priced at $300 after heavy margin.
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-suit-reviews-2016-3?
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Amazon doesn't make heavy margins on everything...  Their business model and pricing algorithm is pretty unique.

 

Likely the same factory that makes the Roberto Label 2 for $700 suits.  At everyday retail for Korrys Clothiers...  I hear the ad 50 times a day on radio.  All day,  everyday....   FML

post #2939 of 4630
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Originally Posted by gs77 View Post

Amazon's suits made in Canada? Wonder who in Canada can make a suit priced at $300 after heavy margin.
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-suit-reviews-2016-3?

 

That's $300 USD and Amazon typically works on razor thin margins, and relies on insane volume to fill the gap. Likely, the kind of quantity they approached the supplier with they were most likely to drive the cost down considerably. Better to make $1 profit on 100 units than $4 profit on 10 units.

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Originally Posted by spiermackay View Post

That's $300 USD and Amazon typically works on razor thin margins, and relies on insane volume to fill the gap. Likely, the kind of quantity they approached the supplier with they were most likely to drive the cost down considerably. Better to make $1 profit on 100 units than $4 profit on 10 units.

I hear you both, but with CAD within its low last couple of months, gross margin would at least account for some currency risk, and this wouldn't be insignificant. But I guess you guys at S&M know better. And I'm sorry if I'm mixing the terms up, I'm no finance person :-)

But even at very low margin, producing a $300 suit in Canada would be challenging, wouldn't it? I mean you still need a human to run machine through all the seams? That only scales to a certain point...
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