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FWIW, I can definitely confirm LodinG GYW shoes are produced by Carlos Santos - recently of Skoak fame.

post #2912 of 4449
Guys, AE has sales all the time. I understand the dollar is not on par but get them at the shoebank.

I've been buying for years from the shoebank and I've had only cosmetic issues.
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I agree that at $500 AE and Loake are overpriced; I'd rather spend more and get Carmina at that point. I was lucky to pick up my Carmina black captoes on Boxing Day from LeatherFoot at a really good price so I'd say keep an eye on them. There was a store in Montreal that used to stock Meermin but they were overpriced as well seeing how they charge $800 for Carmina.

You can blame the 18% duty on men's shoes for the escalation in price for the Loakes and in theory the AE's are duty free buy you can thank the Canadian dollar for the price increase in that department. We're screwed for shoes in Canada.
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FWIW, I can definitely confirm LodinG GYW shoes are produced by Carlos Santos - recently of Skoak fame.


Really?  Based on the Skoat thread, they seem pretty high on Carlos Santos, source the same leather as Carmina with pretty good craftsmanship (although they do stress that they are 2 different products at 2 different price points). The 2 pairs of Loding I have and from the others I've seen at the store I wasn't overly impressed with them.  I would put them ahead of AE, but not on the level of Carmina (at the time Loding first opened, they were a bit over $300 and Carmina's were a lot cheaper). 

post #2915 of 4449
Carlos Santos makes shoes at several levels of quality - both above and below the range offered by Skoak.
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Carlos Santos makes shoes at several levels of quality - both above and below the range offered by Skoak.

It makes sense. Loding also offers a patina service. So circumstantial evidence supports this theory.
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FWIW, I can definitely confirm LodinG GYW shoes are produced by Carlos Santos - recently of Skoak fame.

Just checked out some LodinG on their website. I quite like their chiseled toes. Do you know if the prices listed on the website are CAD since the domain is .ca?

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Just checked out some LodinG on their website. I quite like their chiseled toes. Do you know if the prices listed on the website are CAD since the domain is .ca?

 

Yes, everything is CAD.

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Really?  Based on the Skoat thread, they seem pretty high on Carlos Santos, source the same leather as Carmina with pretty good craftsmanship (although they do stress that they are 2 different products at 2 different price points). The 2 pairs of Loding I have and from the others I've seen at the store I wasn't overly impressed with them.  I would put them ahead of AE, but not on the level of Carmina (at the time Loding first opened, they were a bit over $300 and Carmina's were a lot cheaper). 

 

I guess as it stands right now, there are no local choices without having to wait a long time for a sale. I have to say this however - when surfing LodinG's European website, the price is in Euros, hence due to the devaluation, a better deal than buying locally, but in the end after potential duties, the $263 base price becomes $310, and that is if shipping is available to Canada (instead of forcing to buy from the local store). Will have to research that option, as it may be possible to get them to either honour the price.

 

EDIT: Just threw in a Canadian address into the mix, seems like it'd run us 40€ for shipping, which together with the 180€ base price brings the total to $322. Since VAT is included, duties will most likely not be charged, similar to Velasca. Hell, if you ship it to Asia, you could probably get a VAT refund. 

 

 

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It makes sense. Loding also offers a patina service. So circumstantial evidence supports this theory.

 

That, and I was looking closely at Skoak's pictures of CS' Adelaide models and comparing that to the 'Heraclee' of LodinG and the lasts are identical, right down to the placement of the stitching. Obviously some corners are cut, as CS' models have some beveling on the waist and presumably better leather. 

 

 

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I agree that at $500 AE and Loake are overpriced; I'd rather spend more and get Carmina at that point. I was lucky to pick up my Carmina black captoes on Boxing Day from LeatherFoot at a really good price so I'd say keep an eye on them. There was a store in Montreal that used to stock Meermin but they were overpriced as well seeing how they charge $800 for Carmina.

 

Yeah, I am regretting not getting the Carmina's at 20% off. Still even after the discount it was $424 (IIRC) before tax, unless it was a clearance model (the 732's).

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$195+tax for a heavily lined Eton tie...ouch
post #2921 of 4449
I wouldn't pay that much for 7fold Borelli or Kiton, forget about Eton. Eton ties for me should be at $30-40. You can find them at that level 2/ times a year at Harry's
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$195+tax for a heavily lined Eton tie...ouch
post #2922 of 4449
I checked out Loding during this past summer in their Paris store. Complete crap, GYW or not. Substandard leather, crappy finishing. Better off ordering Septieme Largeur, same shipping cost to Canada, way better quality, nice selection of lasts, including chiselled
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Just checked out some LodinG on their website. I quite like their chiseled toes. Do you know if the prices listed on the website are CAD since the domain is .ca?
post #2923 of 4449
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I checked out Loding during this past summer in their Paris store. Complete crap, GYW or not. Substandard leather, crappy finishing. Better off ordering Septieme Largeur, same shipping cost to Canada, way better quality, nice selection of lasts, including chiselled

 

SL's run $333 shipped (if I was ordering 2 pairs), plus the 18% duty and 13% taxes run into Carmina territory ($464, shipped to China from Carmina direct or Skoak). It's a slim advantage, but LodinG still has an edge over SL, can't deny that. Of course, paying more means you get more (whether that be quality/service/etc) so I'm not surprised. But at $373 tax in, I think LodinG is hard to beat. SL will run to $436 - however this is just my opinion.

post #2924 of 4449
YMMV, but I took delivery of nice SL norvegese captoe boots that were 145Euro (remember SL takes off VAT) plus 40 Euro shipping, so that's about 275 CAD, when they arrived I got hit about 75 CAD (duty, GST, PST), so that is 350 CAD, tax in. How is that a Carmina territory? Also, not sure why would you ship to China? This is a Toronto thread, isn't it?

Do you own any LoDing shoes? Have you handled them? It is not even AE level, it more like Aldo category, I don't see any advantage they have over SL or Meermin.
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SL's run $333 shipped (if I was ordering 2 pairs), plus the 18% duty and 13% taxes run into Carmina territory ($464, shipped to China from Carmina direct or Skoak). It's a slim advantage, but LodinG still has an edge over SL, can't deny that. Of course, paying more means you get more (whether that be quality/service/etc) so I'm not surprised. But at $373 tax in, I think LodinG is hard to beat. SL will run to $436 - however this is just my opinion.
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SL's run $333 shipped (if I was ordering 2 pairs), plus the 18% duty and 13% taxes run into Carmina territory ($464, shipped to China from Carmina direct or Skoak). It's a slim advantage, but LodinG still has an edge over SL, can't deny that. Of course, paying more means you get more (whether that be quality/service/etc) so I'm not surprised. But at $373 tax in, I think LodinG is hard to beat. SL will run to $436 - however this is just my opinion.

I assumed you've tried on LodinG and AE. What's your take on the quality between these two? 

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