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Anyone looking forward to the Saks opening at Sherway? How does Saks compare to Neiman Marcus and Nordstrom?
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Anyone looking forward to the Saks opening at Sherway? How does Saks compare to Neiman Marcus and Nordstrom?

Yes. Would you happen to know the opening date? I'm just interested in picking up Eidos or Isaia on sale eventually.

I've been to all three in the states and for the most part they are similar. If we are talking about their outlet brands, NM has the nicest stuff as I've seen Isaia, Brioni, and Charvet dress shirts there. Saks stocks mostly their own labels and Nordstrom mostly the fashion labels but keep in mind things are likely very different depending on which location you go.
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Yes. Would you happen to know the opening date? I'm just interested in picking up Eidos or Isaia on sale eventually.

I've been to all three in the states and for the most part they are similar. If we are talking about their outlet brands, NM has the nicest stuff as I've seen Isaia, Brioni, and Charvet dress shirts there. Saks stocks mostly their own labels and Nordstrom mostly the fashion labels but keep in mind things are likely very different depending on which location you go.

Feb. 18th for Eaton Centre and Feb. 25th for Sherway.
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prices in C&J factory are at the peak, UK200 and down to UK100, depending on shoe....last october i bought Coniston there for UK200 and pair of dark navy captor shoes for UK120....some of the shops are a waste of time, price wise, i don't even go to Trickers or Lobbs anymore and Churchs used to be great but prices have started to rise there too...C&J and maybe Barker are the best value i think.

 

My Conistons, in the wrong light, could be considered to have very minor fading on one side of one boot (although it could be my imagination) but everything else i have bought there have been perfect to my eyes, but considered seconds to C&J.

 

The harrogate are bullet proof......the almost zug-like leather means they still look new despite being three years old...the Lowndes wee made of very soft suede and the strap tore off when i was buckling them prior to getting off a plane..they were bought in the sale from Barneys and it would have cost more than i paid to ship them back.

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It's good to know that although C&J first quality has gone up in price, their factory seconds have not.  I bought a pair of Conistons from the factory shop in July 2014 for 200 GBP.  I also picked up a pair of navy grain penny loafers for 130 GBP.  I think they were prototype or overstock since I couldn't find any faults.

 

I really wanted to go back to Northampton last time I was in London but the timing didn't work out (C&J shop is open on Fridays and Saturdays).

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yeah the times are terrible Friday afternoon and 9-12 on a saturday i thunk.  Its always really busy when i go there.

 

I popped into Leatherfoot today.....they have three pairs of shell Carmina left....all monk strap.. in larger sizes (UK10.5, 11 and 12) down to $500 a pair....good deal if they fit.

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Dropped by RBC BB. Looks like the 20% extra on BBBF is over. Without it I'm not sure I can justify yet another OCBD.
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i noticed that the 68% sale had been reduced to 60% on the BB website today....I assume it will come back at some point when they are eager to clear the branches and website of remaining BF stuff...sooner hopefully rather than later.

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I stopped by Bulloch Tailors today to look at the fabrics on hand and to learn more about their process. Stan was a very pleasant man who's more than happy to show you the jackets and suits he has under construction and talk shop. However, I don't agree with his claim of being true bespoke given the process and frankly the price would be too good to be true for bespoke. That said his tailor is able to do true bespoke but you'd be looking at $5k and up.

 

For those interested I'd say his process is more like the midpoint between MTM and bespoke; I do feel there are more things you can customize going through Stan than with a typical MTM program such as Samuelsohn's. The following is what I gleaned from my visit:

 

- He and his tailor will measure you but the cutting is done offsite

- He stressed pattern manipulation regarding his process so I asked more and got clarification that he has a set of patterns to choose from to which he will make the necessary changes. The lack of individual pattern drafted for a client makes it not true bespoke

- Most of the work is done offsite with the finishing done in store by the tailor

- You will get a basted fitting similar to true bespoke

- Surgeon cuffs are standard but hand-finished buttonholes costs $5 per 

- Trousers are made by someone else; if you want side adjusters instead of belt loops that will be a surcharge

- Things such as pocket, lapel, lining, etc is up to your discretion

 

Ultimately I think it is a pretty good deal at the prices he is offering; just don't go in thinking it's true bespoke. Personally I didn't really see any fabric that I must have so I most likely won't commission anything.  

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One of the "bespoke" places mentioned in this thread (and mentioned as a "true bespoke") starts all their patterns from a block.

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One of the "bespoke" places mentioned in this thread (and mentioned as a "true bespoke") starts all their patterns from a block.

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I have the previous version in my inbox. tongue.gif Joking aside I get what you mean. Personally if a place is able to adjust a set pattern to exactly match my measurements I'd consider it to be bespoke. It's not the orthodox way but the outcome would be the same. If there are limits to what they can change on a given pattern I'd say that's more MTM than bespoke. smile.gif
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Was just playing devil's advocate
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I've done quite a bit of MTM but no true bespoke. That being said I've had a couple of MTM jackets with a basted fitting and they are by far my best fitting jackets. I think I will insist on that going forward even if it is an extra cost.

FYI - when I met with Hemrajani in October i tried on one of their fitting models which fit rather well. They will do a basted fitting for no extra cost if my memory serves me the only downside being the process takes longer. Jackets started around $850 - 1000 USD with them if I recall but again don't quote me on that one.
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Grats on everyone picking up some steals at the Brooks Brother's sale, but if this thread has shown me anything it's just how much of a turn-off their brand strategy can be. I honestly don't know what item is made by whom or how the quality compares to some other line they have. The fact that the pricing is as wild as it is just furthers the point...am I buying a $600 shoe or a $200 shoe? 

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PSA on Skoaks oddstock if you didn't alreayd know.

 

 

Carmina Black scotch grain jumpers on LLUBI

Carmina Oscar Last Loden Suede Tanker

Carmina Rain last 2 tone spectator ankle boots

 

 

And a sick EB Monkey Boot in 8UK, that I so want to buy, but am thinking of putting that cash towards and EB MTO instead..

 

http://www.skoaktiebolaget.se/collections/odd-stock

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