Originally Posted by akoustas
I think people are a little misconceived in terms of the value they're getting for a suit. To make a simple example: purchasing a Z Zegna suit off the rack for $1500 is obviously a bad decision, however a mainline OTR Zegna can hit $3000 easily. In Toronto, there are a bevy of Made-to-Measure options in the $1000-$1400 range which are infinitely better than a Z Zegna (Samuelsohn in particular), likewise a Garrison semi-bespoke piece can be made with equivalent and or superior fabrics to the mainline Zegna for less with debatable comparisons over the construction. In each case you are also benefiting from something (semi) custom made.
The key is, you aren't going to get a $5000 bespoke suit for $2000, and there's no magical Neopolitan tailor lost in a North York minimall that's going to do it for you for under $1000. However, whichever local option you do choose (and there have been many discussed here), you'll probably be getting a better value and looking better than 90% of the buyers who frequent the usual menswear stops.
When it comes to clothing, the "value" is hard to define, and depends on one's temperament. It's almost like you want to get married and you start looking for wife with best value . Funny questions come to mind, like: will she drape well in few years?
The very fact we are members of this forum means that most of us have somewhat twisted sense of value in clothing (compared to 90% of buyers).
And you're right in two things. First, there is no super tailor making bespoke in Toronto for <$1000, as there is no in any major western city. Second, spending $$$$ on OTR stuff is the worst choice for anyone I can think of.
Since moving to Toronto few years ago I tried Garrison (wouldn't call it bespoke), just recently one other tailor with what was closest to real bespoke (will write about this when I get some time and take some photos), and I am still to try some of the MTM options. Also, if one has a regular build, knows its proportions and has some experience of what fits him OTR, eBay/outlets are a great option. Ebay has good deals if you know what you're looking for.
Speaking about MTM, has anyone tried SuSu Suit-up personal tailoring in Toronto store?