Originally Posted by poorsod
IME shoes feel a lot different with the sole than without. I have had multiple experiences where the shoe felt fine at the fitting stage but either too tight or too loose after completion. It's really important to be able to make adjusments after the shoe has been made.
Same for trial shoes; they do feel different than the actual finished shoes due to the lack of stiffeners and sole.
Being able to make adjustments after the shoes done is essential, at least for me.
Originally Posted by agjiffy
I found the cleverly-style heel-less fitting to give me almost no basis for which I could give feedback to the maker about fit. The trial shoe is so far from an actual show that it was meaningless to me. That being said, the shoes turned out well. For those fittings where I've been given an actual shoe with a heel, I've found that I can give useful feedbackl along the lines of "this is too tight" or "I'd like a closer fit here." Anything more than that and I'm in the shoemaker's hands and, as Dieworkwear said, counting upon them to make it right at the end of the day even if it takes a while to get there.
The question is, for trial shoes fittings specifically, how long did you wear the shoes to be able to provide useful feedback?
@DWFII suggests first impression within a few minutes, so thats 3-4 minutes.
Some UK shoemakers schedules in 30min or 1 hour meetings, so that's about 30min to an hour of in-welt trials.
The French maker I've used is pretty flexible though I did not request them to send trial shoes to my place ahead of fitting.
Some Japanese shoemakers recommend a few days to weeks.