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post #406 of 655
If the instep has too much volume, why not just press for a remake? I can't imagine paying for bespoke shoes (let alone at JL prices) and then needing to use a tongue pad.

Edit: Sorry, just saw those were originally made for someone else. In that case, I would just sell them.
post #407 of 655
mw, I guess you are now part of the SF big-timers...or will discounts annul this badge of honour?

Anyhow, the medallion seems to float far off the toe edge, but that's just what the buyer wanted. I'm sending you a PM with a pointer.
post #408 of 655
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Originally Posted by mw313 View Post

Any thoughts on the look, the fit, and any possible direct shoe adjustments as well as last adjustments?

As a student of the foot, I think you know that these shoes are too big for you. Esp. with lean feet, small discrepancies in fit can result in big problems. Length a little off, width a little off, you almost can't predict the repercussions.

But FWIW, if you stand upright and quiet in the shoes and have a friend run a thumb or forefinger side-to-side over the forepart of the shoe and any leather is "rucked up" or driven ahead of the finger, the shoe doesn't fit. It is too big.

That's nearly a universal test for fit (although not the only one) and there are few or no exceptions.

Nor should you be able to slip a pencil, for instance, under the tongue or behind the heel. (In the photo, the shoes don't look like they are laced snugly and yet the facings are already almost too close together.)

I think you know too that it won't get any better...and it very well may get worse.

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Edited by DWFII - 3/1/16 at 7:20am
post #409 of 655
Definitely sell those shoes. They'll look terrible after a few wears and will never be comfortable.
post #410 of 655

Any way you could spoiler all those pics next time? (or at least most of them)

 

Also, really not a fan of that last shape (obviously you didn't choose it, but still)

post #411 of 655
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Also, really not a fan of that last shape (obviously you didn't choose it, but still)
It is a little BLobb-y, but not too bad on its own terms. The real issue is fit. If you can't make it work for you, the best shoe in the world isn't worth the trouble.
post #412 of 655
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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post

mw, I guess you are now part of the SF big-timers...or will discounts annul this badge of honour?

Anyhow, the medallion seems to float far off the toe edge, but that's just what the buyer wanted. I'm sending you a PM with a pointer.

 

I have a pair of bespoke shoes that I had made for me already, so those are great! I just saw such a deal here and wanted to try it all out. 

 

thanks for the pointer.

post #413 of 655
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post


As a student of the foot, I think you know that these shoes are too big for you. Esp. with lean feet, small discrepancies in fit can result in big problems. Length a little off, width a little off, you almost can't predict the repercussions.

But FWIW, if you stand upright and quiet in the shoes and have a friend run a thumb or forefinger side-to-side over the forepart of the shoe and any leather is "rucked up" or driven ahead of the finger, the shoe doesn't fit. It is too big.

That's nearly a universal test for fit (although not the only one) and there are few or no exceptions.

Nor should you be able to slip a pencil, for instance, under the tongue or behind the heel. (In the photo, the shoes don't look like they are laced snugly and yet the facings are already almost too close together.)

I think you know too that it won't get any better...and it very well may get worse.

edited for punctuation and clarity

 

 

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It is a little BLobb-y, but not too bad on its own terms. The real issue is fit. If you can't make it work for you, the best shoe in the world isn't worth the trouble.


Thank to you all for the tips. I also have been in contact with John Hunter Lobb himself and showed him the same pictures of the shoes. He said that he thought that fit was surprisingly good, but that he will have his son come to visit me in Philadelphia in the next couple months because he will be in the NYC area anyway. He said that he already has a couple ideas to fix the fit and could even modify the wooden last to take it down in volume in the areas that are too big. 

 

Now that is service, even though I didn't commission the shoes themselves. 

post #414 of 655

I am thinking that 2016 will be the year of the bespoke loafer for me.

 

I'm interested in creating the perfect bespoke travel loafer. Probably similar to a penny loafer in design. Something towards the more conservative side of things...probably in a dark brown. It could be worn in just about any setting except the most formal of engagements...but with a suit, sportcoat, or chinos/jeans. 

 

I'm also mulling over the idea of a bespoke cordovan tassel loafer. I grew up with the style and have always been drawn to it. 

 

Though I must admit I am quite taken by jerrybrowne's butterfly loafers...

post #415 of 655
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I am thinking that 2016 will be the year of the bespoke loafer for me.

I'm interested in creating the perfect bespoke travel loafer. Probably similar to a penny loafer in design. Something towards the more conservative side of things...probably in a dark brown. It could be worn in just about any setting except the most formal of engagements...but with a suit, sportcoat, or chinos/jeans. 

I'm also mulling over the idea of a bespoke cordovan tassel loafer. I grew up with the style and have always been drawn to it. 

Though I must admit I am quite taken by jerrybrowne's butterfly loafers...

I'm also thinking of making a tassel loafer out of unlined cordovan to keep it light and comfortable. What style are you going after? Was thinking of a De Rede after Derek mentioned it....
post #416 of 655
I love the shell cordovan penny loafers @bengal-stripe posted last year. So simple, but so perfectly done.

Also intrigued by the LazyMan oxford, although I don't wear suits enough to get a bespoke pair. Could make for a nice slip-on travel shoe though.

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Personally hoping to get a de Rede at some point. I prefer the rounder toe design, but RJman chastised me and said that wouldn't be a true de Rede -- which is chiseled toe. Prob right, but I'm a wuss.
post #417 of 655
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I'm also thinking of making a tassel loafer out of unlined cordovan to keep it light and comfortable. What style are you going after? Was thinking of a De Rede after Derek mentioned it....

 

I'm not a fan of the chiseled toe on the De Rede...I'm opting for a more rounded toe. Not as rounded as a Weston penny loafer but a bit more 'classically smart'. 

post #418 of 655
Thread Starter 
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I'm not a fan of the chiseled toe on the De Rede...I'm opting for a more rounded toe. Not as rounded as a Weston penny loafer but a bit more 'classically smart'. 

Also not a big fan of the chiseled toe on the standard De Rede. Was thinking more like Will's version, but not in pigskin.

post #419 of 655
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Also not a big fan of the chiseled toe on the standard De Rede. Was thinking more like Will's version, but not in pigskin.
 

 

Yes I have seen that pic elsewhere before and admired it...did not know that this was a Cleverly shoe. 

 

It's nice but similarly I would don't want pigskin. I think a cordovan such as horween #4, #6 or #8 would be nice....reminiscent of the classic Alden tassel loafer because its cordovan...but with a more modern and stylized design and shape. 

post #420 of 655
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Also not a big fan of the chiseled toe on the standard De Rede. Was thinking more like Will's version, but not in pigskin.


I like the idea of a loafer but maybe without the tassel to change it up a bit, so it would still be a brown loafer that has a lot of uses but by taking off the tassel, it would look a bit more smart and modern.

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