The Bespoke Shoes Thread

marcodalondra · Mar 26, 2015

The uppers have been stitched up. Ready for lasting:

marcodalondra · Apr 4, 2015

Update:

jerrybrowne · Apr 4, 2015

marcodalondra said:
Update:

Looking good!

mw313 · Apr 5, 2015

jerrybrowne said:
Looking good!

I agree, they look great so far!

marcodalondra · Apr 5, 2015

Thanks, he decided to do a 360 welt as he thinks it achieve a more complete look, and see if I like it, otherwise future orders will be welted up to the waist area

mw313 · Apr 5, 2015

marcodalondra said:
Thanks, he decided to do a 360 welt as he thinks it achieve a more complete look, and see if I like it, otherwise future orders will be welted up to the waist area

that sounds like a fine idea. I have shoes that are in both ways, and prefer different types for different shoe styles.

T4phage · Apr 10, 2015

marcodalondra said:
Here is my entry. The target is a burgundy/prune quarter brogue Oxford to try my lasts and make any relevant adjustments. Progress are slow as my Mistery Shoemaker is doing this in his spare time out of his main job.....

hai
i recognise
teh work
of a.e

T4phage · Apr 10, 2015

seeing bengal's
croc moc
made me want
a penny loafer
like this

meccariello has
a few first choice
skins from teh italian
branch of hcp
so he started on
my wholecut
(except for the
strap and border)
'campus' loafer
this time
with the toe
in teh 'normal'
position

oh
and my
side elastic upper
has now been
stitched...

i wanted the
toe to be at
the throat
due to the interesting
scale pattern
... something dwfii
said about the
throat scales looking
sea turtle-y
was interesting
enough for
me to
try

DWFII · Apr 10, 2015

T4phage said:
i wanted the
toe to be at
the throat
due to the interesting
scale pattern
... something dwfii
said about the
throat scales looking
sea turtle-y
was interesting
enough for
me to
try

The loafers are very nice looking...as good a usage of croc as I've seen in a while.

The side-elastic shoes are going to be an interesting and good looking but frankly the toe doesn't really look much like sea turtle on either the either skins or the lasted uppers.. I don't know if that's because these skins are croc (?) (as contrasted with American alligator) or what, but rectangular tiles are not very characteristic of turtle.

Looking forward to seeing the finished shoes.

ntempleman · Apr 11, 2015

Those are alligator skins, crocodile has a distinctive pore mark on each scale.

bengal-stripe · Apr 11, 2015

T4phage said:
this time
with the toe
in teh 'normal'
position

----------------------------------
i wanted the
toe to be at
the throat
due to the interesting
scale pattern

Once you've got both pairs, put up pictures and a poll, so people can vote whether they prefer the toe aligned towards the head or the tail of the beast.

DWFII · Apr 11, 2015

ntempleman said:
Those are alligator skins, crocodile has a distinctive pore mark on each scale.

To paraphrase the commercial..."everybody knows that..."

Well, maybe not everybody but you and I do. The photos were not enlargeable, however, and I've been mistaken before just looking at a photo instead of the actual item (shoes, leather, etc.), so I just took t4phage at his word that they were croc.

Anyway...all that's beside the point. here's a good look at some sea turtle:

Looks a little like crocodilian flank but not. Few if any rectangular tiles, in any case.

T4phage · Apr 11, 2015

^
sorry if i implied
it was croc
i knew it was
gator and
don't recall
writing it
was croc

DWFII · Apr 11, 2015

T4phage said:
^
sorry if i implied
it was croc
i knew it was
gator and
don't recall
writing it
was croc

No problem, you didn't come out and actually say it.

I mis-read...my mistake.

poorsod · Apr 11, 2015

ntempleman said:
Those are alligator skins, crocodile has a distinctive pore mark on each scale.

I had to look it up. Apparently the pore is some sort of sensory organ. Huh.

http://crocodilian.com/cnhc/conservative business dress-faq-q1.htm

5. Integumentary sense organs: Both crocodiles and alligators have small, sensory pits dotted around the upper and lower jaws - take a close look on a photograph, and you'll see small, black speckles almost like unshaven stubble. These are capable of detecting small pressure changes in water, and assist in locating and capturing prey. These were originally called ISOs, or Integumentary Sense Organs, although recent research has renamed them DPRs (Dermal Pressure Receptors). Crocodiles have similar organs covering virtually every scale on their body, but alligators and caimans only have those around the jaws. Although it's been known for years that sense organs on the jaws are involved in pressure detection, nobody is quite sure what those organs covering the rest of the body in crocodiles actually do. They probably extend the sensory surface over the crocodile's entire body, but previous researchers have suggested they may assist in chemical reception, or even salinity detection. The confusion lies over why crocodiles have them, but not alligators and caimans. Regardless of their role, they're very good at telling apart crocodile skin from alligator skin. Crocodile and alligator skin wallets, handbags, boots etc are easy to tell apart - if the scales have a small spot or dimple close to the edge, you know the skin is from a crocodile and not an alligator or caiman. This is illustrated below - the alligator on the left does not have any sense organs, but the crocodile on the right does.

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