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post #16 of 29
9/18/07 at 12:29am
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
well... without knowing anything more about the show or the competitions, they have a time limit. If they needed to get it done in 30minutes the pressure cooker would help with that. Generally speaking, you get better results by not using it. I've never done a direct comparison, but that's what a number of cookbooks I trust say and the logic they use makes sense.

Again, I disagree. It is a useful tool for some dishes and improves on their flavor. For others, it is an abomination. Basically, what it allows you to do is to cook with moist heat at a higher temperature than possible at normal pressure.

As to the Guinea Hen, which is better than when done not under pressure, you brown some lardons and then add diced onions. Remove that and then add butter, and brown the hen on all sides. season and add back the onions and pork, potatoes, cabbage and carrots. Then you bring the pressure to 10 lbs and cook for 20 minutes.

Pressure cookers have been around since the mid 1600s and have their uses. The valves will no longer fail and for certain uses, they are very good.
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post #17 of 29
9/18/07 at 5:54pm
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My grandmother always warned of the dangers of pressure cookers. I didn't really appreciate the message until I was involved in a ghastly accident with my Mukka Express. Let's just say the ceiling will never be the same.

One of my first jobs out of law school was at a firm that did some litigation for a major producer of pressure cookers and other kitchen appliances. I would advise all of you that own pressure cookers and those purchasing new ones to read the instruction manuals, and pay particular attention to keeping any gaskets or seals in good condition (frequent inspection). That's all I have.
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post #18 of 29
9/19/07 at 9:22pm
The best pressure cookers on the market, bar none, are made by All-American.
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post #19 of 29
9/19/07 at 10:05pm
I have been told that, counter-intuitively, a decent risotto can be made in a pressure cooker. I have not tried, however.
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post #20 of 29
9/19/07 at 10:21pm
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I have been told that, counter-intuitively, a decent risotto can be made in a pressure cooker. I have not tried, however.

Not in my experience. But then I am biased against the damned things.
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post #21 of 29
9/19/07 at 10:47pm
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Not in my experience. But then I am biased against the damned things.

We should to gang-up on matt and get him to relinquish his corner-cutting ways. Then again, he lives in san francisco so is destined to be afflicted with cooky ideas (pun intended). Maybe he deserves a pass on that basis alone.

Speaking of short-cuts, Matt, didn't you tell me not to put my shallots in water and to learn to do it properly? It seems to me that even owning a pressure cooker is a sin worthy of the 8th circle of culinary hell. It's akin to saddam having WMDs. Even if he wouldn't have ever used them, we still couldn't take the risk of allowing him to have them. If you're not willing to give it up, maybe we need to remove you from the kitchen.
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post #22 of 29
9/19/07 at 11:42pm
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
We should to gang-up on matt and get him to relinquish his corner-cutting ways. Then again, he lives in san francisco so is destined to be afflicted with cooky ideas (pun intended). Maybe he deserves a pass on that basis alone.

Speaking of short-cuts, Matt, didn't you tell me not to put my shallots in water and to learn to do it properly? It seems to me that even owning a pressure cooker is a sin worthy of the 8th circle of culinary hell. It's akin to saddam having WMDs. Even if he wouldn't have ever used them, we still couldn't take the risk of allowing him to have them. If you're not willing to give it up, maybe we need to remove you from the kitchen.

Are you trying to talk Manton into forming an Internet Cooking Guild?

You have been at this a rather short time to have all the answers. Perhaps you should do a bit more learning.
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post #23 of 29
9/19/07 at 11:56pm
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Then again, he lives in san francisco so is destined to be afflicted with cooky ideas (pun intended). Maybe he deserves a pass on that basis alone.

I would live in San Francisco if I could. I would even live on Russian Hill, first choice.
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post #24 of 29
9/19/07 at 11:59pm
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
Again, I disagree. It is a useful tool for some dishes and improves on their flavor. For others, it is an abomination. Basically, what it allows you to do is to cook with moist heat at a higher temperature than possible at normal pressure.

+1. Unlike, say, a slow cooker, there's physics involved here that can work to the pressure cookers advantage for the right dishes. I haven't used my pressure (received as a wedding gift, IIRC) for a good seven years, and I'm no expert. But the point of the pressure is to raise the boiling point and so the temperature inside the pot. I can see how that would be valuable. and some of the things that I used to eat out of a pressure cooker were pretty darn good.
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post #25 of 29
9/20/07 at 12:00am
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I would live in San Francisco if I could. I would even live on Russian Hill, first choice.

There should be a reality show where you, Matt and Will all live in the same house. With really small closets, to up the tension.
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post #26 of 29
9/20/07 at 12:03am
What would be the object of the show? Would they travel about, giving other men makeovers? Or is it just to watch them argue over who has the best pocket square fold?
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post #27 of 29
9/20/07 at 12:13am
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I would live in San Francisco if I could. I would even live on Russian Hill, first choice.
Would you like to borrow my upstairs neighbors for a few weeks? It is almost like being there.
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post #28 of 29
9/20/07 at 12:25am
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Are you trying to talk Manton into forming an Internet Cooking Guild?

You have been at this a rather short time to have all the answers. Perhaps you should do a bit more learning.

Relax d00d. You know I'm just playin' wit u!
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post #29 of 29
9/20/07 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
My grandmother always warned of the dangers of pressure cookers. I didn't really appreciate the message until I was involved in a ghastly accident with my Mukka Express. Let's just say the ceiling will never be the same.
Ironically my grandmother was severely burned in a pressure cooker malfunction.

And both she and my mother used their pressure-cookers to make bean soup. And meth, I think.
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