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I have not been able to figure out Rhyme's position on anything really. I think he's saying that Qatifi Shiites would rise up if it weren't for the prosperity of the Saudi state in a similar way that the Houthis have.  

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Rhyme assumed that the shah was assuming that houthis are rebelling because Iran is playing them. So he was saying that its very natural that they would rebel like that and that it would be the same for saudis shiites.

I think the shah was making a more general statement which rhyme misunderstood.
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Palace in Taiz supposedly hit by aerial bombardment

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'Izzat ad-Douri might be dead. 

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Rhyme assumed that the shah was assuming that houthis are rebelling because Iran is playing them. So he was saying that its very natural that they would rebel like that and that it would be the same for saudis shiites.

Thanks for clarifying. Not only Saudi but Bahraini as well which is majority Shia.

 

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 I think the shah was making a more general statement which rhyme misunderstood.

Maybe...

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I've already mentioned the likelihood of iran's role being exaggerated in all ths. Now I just said the yemini are, from all my interactions, amazing folks who are strong and will percevere but upon whom has befallen a sad fate of selfishness. I can't tell if you're trolling or just paranoid anymore but you should stop obsessing over all I say as media hype...
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Thanks for clarifying. Not only Saudi but Bahraini as well which is majority Shia.

 

I think most opposition Bahrainis would tell you that their protests are not sectarian rather they are for democracy.

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I think most opposition Bahrainis would tell you that their protests are not sectarian rather they are for democracy.

Exactly which is why they chose to comply instead of tearing the entire country apart. My point was that if Iran really wants global dominance/influence then it was easy for them to ignite a war and take over the country because they have a Shia majority there.

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Exactly which is why they chose to comply instead of tearing the entire country apart. My point was that if Iran really wants global dominance/influence then it was easy for them to ignite a war and take over the country because they have a Shia majority there.


What? That would be the plan if they really wanted to start a world war. The expansionism that Iran is engaged in is much more threatening than a war.

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 The expansionism that Iran is engaged in is much more threatening than a war.

Can you elaborate on this?

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Can you elaborate on this?


I mean that they are digging deep roots in Syria and Iraq in the same way that they did in Lebanon. It's like @iraqisecurity said yesterday, 2 years ago he would have broken someone's nose for saying Iraqis associated with Iran and now he's their cheerleader. 

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Iran is expanding its influence by supporting certain groups with a widely appealing cause within their population.

Saudi arabia expands its influence by exporting terrorist ideologies, or buying leaders with millions. Even when they have a fertile popular base they manage to hijack and fuck it up with their methods.

That is why Iran was successful while Saudi has been failing so far.


Hezballaha leader had a pretty nice speech today (designed for yemeni morale i guess) but he made some important statements about saudi arabia exporting the takfiri ideologies to africa and arab countries. Cant find a comprehensive translation yet.
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I mean that they are digging deep roots in Syria and Iraq in the same way that they did in Lebanon. It's like @iraqisecurity said yesterday, 2 years ago he would have broken someone's nose for saying Iraqis associated with Iran and now he's their cheerleader. 

This was not Iran doing. Both countries were handed to them on a plate.

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@ikhwanSyria: قائد حركة احرار الشام: علاقة جبهة النصرة بالقاعدة تعود بالضرر على الشعب السوري #Syria

Ahrar commander says Nusra ties with AQ are damaging to the Syrian people. Rifts in the Ahrar/Nusra relationship are very important.
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Here is a bunch of Nasrallah's speech: http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/175891

He might be right about Saudi but he's still a dick head.
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