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post #481 of 2646
Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Is there a more convincing/legitimate article ? Huffpo is awful for so many reasons

There were a few on lebanese news sites in arabic. But obviously this is all rumours. Some saudi twitter accounts that are close to the regime have confirmed those rumours saying that a joint operation is being carefully studied and that final details are being made.
post #482 of 2646
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Didn't Erdogan just visit Russia and Iran? I don't think Turkey could enter into any open engagement with the regime without the blessing of those two. 

post #483 of 2646
yeah seems fair enough, i think there will be lot of discussion on possible courses of action. but i don't believe saudi bombing yemen is really indication of an emboldened sense of regional authority.
post #484 of 2646
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In comes Zarif on Yemen with an incredibly reasonable statement:


"This issue should be resolved by the Yemenis... Iran and SA need to talk but we cannot talk to determine the future of Yemen." 



post #485 of 2646
Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

The ways in which a Turkish-Saudi overthrow of Bashar could go wrong are so many and varied I can't even begin to think about it. I wonder what the current SAA would do if the regime were decapitated. Likely fall Hizbollah or create new militias to fight the jihadists, yeah? 
Part of me wants that to happen just to watch it blow up in their faces. But happy endings rarely happen here.

Theres a lot of sunnis in Bashars army and areas and while theyre loyal and support him i doubt theyd stay indoctrinated into fighting in case the regime fell. Plus a lot of the officers there are corrupt as hell so i doubt the army would stay cohesive without the regime.

Hezballah built for a lot of years inside the shiite community to get to where its currently at. The christians and alawites would basically be fighting for their lives at that point, no doubt that theyd be looking towards Hezballah for support and organization but i doubt theyd retain any level of effectiveness. Unless some efforts are already underway to organize such militias but itd just be delaying the inevitable.

Syria and Hezballah are basically fighting islamists from tens of countries, alawites and christians are already few in number, Hezballah has a few fronts to worry about, and in case the sunni countries want to go for all out war all hell will break loose. Lebanon has palestinian camps that are armed to their teeth, theres Israel on the border, thered be Turks invading Syria, etc...Hezballah would be fighting on 3 or 4 fronts.

Theres no way to resist such a supposed scenario if superpowers such as Iran and Russia dont fully commit.

But yes its still hard to imagine it happening given how fragile those regimes are. I definitely think theyll try to improve their positions more though
post #486 of 2646
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I have a feeling the war is going to outlast the regime. You have to think that AQ has plans for a post-IS Iraq too that could see the Sunni opposition expand. ISIS has effectively kept the Syrian war from spilling over to Iraq but what happens when they are gone? 

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post #488 of 2646
So Yemen is really fucked.
post #489 of 2646
Its getting pretty bad for the civilians. It seems saudi has pumped a few millions to buy back some Saleh guys.

Yemen has been fucked for decades. Saleh when he was saudis man apparently amassed 100 billion dollars.

Saudi arabia has treated yemen very poorly for decades. Didnt even let it join the gcc. Its an extremely poor country. And houthis have been targeted for decades. Its hard to lose when you have nothing to lose.
post #490 of 2646
and yet, they are one of the most resilient people. extremely kind, as well. if you've ever attended an iftar hosted by yemenis, economically not well off though they may be, their generosity knows no bounds in filling empty bellies. i wish the others would stop using these amazing folks as pawns in their childish games of regional ambitions.
post #491 of 2646
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The people I've been following in Yemen have gone from joking about the airstrikes to joking about the airstrikes but also pointing out that they have no water, power, or fuel. I dislike generalizations but Yemenis do seem special in their attitudes and approach to strife.
post #492 of 2646
The shah ive only met one but they do seem to hold old traditions of hospitality and chivalry and whatnot. Obvious exceptions exist, of course.

I have been reading that a large part of the saudi population has tribal ties to yemenis, mostly saudi poor people. And that that explains why saudi arabia always sought to keep yemen pinned down.
post #493 of 2646
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The bin Ladens are from the Hadhramout.
post #494 of 2646
Originally Posted by the shah View Post
i wish the others would stop using these amazing folks as pawns in their childish games of regional ambitions.

Stop buying the media hype. As Alan pointed out these are poor repressed people. If Saudi didnt have boat load of cash then you would hear similar stories coming from the Qatif region. Talking about Saudi they have now sentenced Sheikh Nimr nephew, Ali Nimr, A 17 year old to be executed.

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Not sure what you talking about
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