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Is that good?
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Depends on your perspective. It is bad for isis if that is what you are asking.
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The biggest secret everyone already knew: Nasrallah admits Hezbollah is fighting IS in Iraq
http://goo.gl/0cuJuF
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The biggest secret everyone already knew: Nasrallah admits Hezbollah is fighting IS in Iraq
http://goo.gl/0cuJuF


Do you follow @sumerrising on Twitter? Dude is mostly on point but completely incapable of seeing the problem posed by the Iranian proxies. I understand being an Iraqi Shi'a and really resenting the Sunnis and Kurds but at some point you have to stop the cycle of sectarian violence. 

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Do you follow @sumerrising on Twitter? Dude is mostly on point but completely incapable of seeing the problem posed by the Iranian proxies. I understand being an Iraqi Shi'a and really resenting the Sunnis and Kurds but at some point you have to stop the cycle of sectarian violence. 

No, sounds depressing and I try to avoid political noise masqueraded as factual analysis on twitter.

But this brings up an important point of changing the narrative for the Shi'a. Having been a minority throughout history, the main focus has always been on victimhood and persecution--see the ending 5 min of any Nakshawani talk, regardless of topic. [Note that it was chosen as state ideology by the Safavid dynasty seeking to rally the Persian populace against external threat to the Kurd--or, depending on your sources, Turkic--monarchy and generally considered the demarcation of "modern Persia"]. With a growing sphere of regional geopolitical influence, you can't simply stake the same claims as justification. The regime has had to recently rethink this approach while expanding its reach since survival and self-defense aren't very compatible with neo-imperalism. It'll be interesting to see how they spin it now to justify much of their policies.
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The Shi'a bookending of this conflict is incredibly interesting too. So many Iraqi Shi'a I agree with on Iraq but cannot tolerate on Syria. It's weird how they take the tone of we have been oppressed and it's our turn in Iraq but in Syria it's purely sectarian allegiance. 

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See this timeline for some critique of the Atlantic article: https://storify.com/AthertonKD/what-isis-really-believes-shapes-what-isis-really

 

and if you're confused, CW = conventional wisdom

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8) ISIL's theological seriousness shouldn't be confused w interpreting correctly. It has made errors even from the salafi jihadi perspective

getting closer and closer. the subsequent discussion is a bit silly trying to draw familiar analogies but whatever. he almost hit the nail on the head in terms of the self-contradiction that encompasses current salafi thinking, which is that the term a) means anything other than some vague notion (Yasir Qadhi has a discussion about the evolution of the term itself and how it has over the centuries come to mean many and often contradictory things) and that b) salafi school seeks to bypass "established authority" of current ulema and go back to the original sources but the means by which they get there are through established and contemporary scholars who were trained by the previous generation who were ... ... ... i.e. isnad which is the method by which the current ulema establish their credentials. Unless of course salafis have access to a time machine that would be a game changer.
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Looks like shit is going down, ISIS launching major attacked against Kurdish areas...
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I'd be very skeptical of reports of Kurdish vulnerability. They have a long border where it's easy for ISIS to get temporary local superiority, but the long-term trend definitely seems to be in the Kurds' favor.

The Kurds seem to be happy to let people think they're weak, though. A few shells fell on Irbil and we started bombing ISIS. It's worked out well for them.
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The Kurds seem to be happy to let people think they're weak, though. A few shells fell on Irbil and we started bombing ISIS. It's worked out well for them.

 

wat. Why in the world would the KRG want to be perceived as weak? 

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Because it lets them seize cities, makes bombs fall from the sky on their enemies and hopefully will get them more guns and money?
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Perhaps. Without being on the ground it's hard to tell if the KRG is stockpiling weapons or not. Lots of separatist Shi'a types harp on this though.  

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The long term solution to terrorism in general has been provided by the State Department - jobs fairs. Bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers were just disenfranchised poor people with no way to earn a buck. This argument is apparently just "too nuanced" for some to understand laugh.gif

On second thought, this isn't funny, but it might be if these people weren't potentially putting the rest of us in danger with these delusions.
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