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I mostly ignore Wikileaks. It's an instrument of Russia's disinformation program. 

even if granted that Wikileaks cooperates with Russians- which there is ZERO proof of

but for sake of the argument, let's assume it's Russians who are 100% behind it


Than STILL disinformation is intentionally false or misleading. DNC emails are legit, their legitimacy was never questioned, even by Clinton on the debate stage. So even if Russia is trying to influence USA politics, still they are providing TRUE albeit stolen information.

so what's exactly you argument against knowing more facts?
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so what's exactly you argument against knowing more facts?

 

Because they're not all facts. Anything that is true will come out as so through other outlets. Taking the protestant approach and combing Wikileaks for yourself is not advisable. 

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I see bombing civilians doesnt bother you anymore ethan?

 

It never has bothered him.

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Jesus, you people are like a plague. Go be weird leftists somewhere else. 

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Because they're not all facts. Anything that is true will come out as so through other outlets. Taking the protestant approach and combing Wikileaks for yourself is not advisable. 

I don't have your faith in mass media.
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Because they're not all facts. Anything that is true will come out as so through other outlets. Taking the protestant approach and combing Wikileaks for yourself is not advisable. 

Why would anyone think this to be the case? What outlets are these and how would they have a better source than the primary source of the emails them selves?
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Why would anyone think this to be the case? What outlets are these and how would they have a better source than the primary source of the emails them selves?

 

Please go back to not using the internet. a7san hek. 

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Please go back to not using the internet. a7san hek. 

Go huff a turd you smug little twat.
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Jesus, you people are like a plague. Go be weird leftists somewhere else. 

I'm sure there is a forum for warmongering globalist neo-cons for you to enjoy.
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Did you really just use the word globalist? 

 

:rotflmao:

 

This fuckin' guy. 

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Did you really just use the word globalist? 

rotflmao.gif

This fuckin' guy. 

Huuurrrr Duuurrrr
post #2592 of 2695
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It's impossible to actually talk about these things with people who think we can just flip a magic switch and disengage from Saudi Arabia. Even more impossible with the anti-imperialism crowd who blame the US for everything. 

There's a whole continuum difference between disengaging and going all in. I don't see how the long term trend of overstating Iran's menace and understating's SA nefarious influence was a given and couldn't have been revised at some key points. Now the USA is a country pouring money into SA and Israel and thus making sure nothing is ever resolved there and tensions go from festering to all out violence and back to festering.
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I don't really agree with the narrative that SA is 100% a nefarious influence. And I certainly don't agree that Israel-SA is a cohesive unit, let alone Israel-SA-US...
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That said, the US supporting general rebellion against Bashar and then offering little but drone strikes since then is a pretty poor reflection on them. The actions in Iraq were pretty much stupid too. Stupidity and lacking foresight not quite the same thing as the conspiracy theories though.
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I don't really agree with the narrative that SA is 100% a nefarious influence. And I certainly don't agree that Israel-SA is a cohesive unit, let alone Israel-SA-US...

No one said any of those things so there is nothing to disagree with...
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