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Well the USA is the most dangerous and brutal state by far. You guys just love to deploy your new tech and kill a lot of people. That you're doing it in a civilized/yay human rights way really doesn't do much for all the dead people...

Of course that's a general statement of consequences and I strongly disagree with Alan on the specifics of neo-cons -was the philosophy ever that important in Bush II gov? I believe it has been greatly overstated a little bit like the Shia Sunni divisions lines in various countries- implementation of various stated strategies, on the differences between Assad and Abdullah, hell probably even on what to do now that the whole thing is going on in Syria and elsewhere. I'm also probably a lot more pro-Kurd than most here etc etc.

I dont know whether it was philosophy or ideology, it was probably just strategy since the former two actually imply some moral commitment. What i do know is it was followed and implemented.

How am i overstating sunni shia division lines? They are whats used in every conflict in the region from Syria to iraq to yemen.

Kurds have been repressed for years but theyre just as big assholes as every other group.





Ethan, have you seen the wikileaks email that says that Saudi Arabia and Qatar have financed and supported Nusra and ISIS, for example?
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You just dont know how things really work here honestly and how easily the groups here are pawns that can be moved with one phone call.

 

I know exactly how easy it is because I know the handlers of these groups. With that, I don't think it's as easy as you think. 

 

 

I mostly ignore Wikileaks. It's an instrument of Russia's disinformation program. 

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I mostly ignore Wikileaks. It's an instrument of Russia's disinformation program. 

Starting from which date ?
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You ignore the only window to some semblance of behind the scenes truth, while the persons exposed have never denied their truth and validity?
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You ignore the only window to some semblance of behind the scenes truth, while the persons exposed have never denied their truth and validity?

 

Anything provided by Wikileaks needs corroboration.

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Anything provided by Wikileaks needs corroboration.

Starting from which date?
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re: iraq and iran, you do know that in the 80s the US supported and armed and pushed Saddam in his sunni shiite conflict against Iran, right?
Its not the first time it has used the countries as battlegrounds against eachother.


Anyway, ive yet to hear a coherent explanation for the US foreign policy from another perspective:
Seems it is:

1- We went to iraq as an oopsie, sorry.

2- Bashar Assad is an evil vampire who just wants to bomb people

3- Were supporting the opposition because he repressed them. Then again Bahrain actually called over military and police from Dubai and Saudi to repress theirs, but thats ok because Assad is a vampire remember.

4- Oh and were not supporting the opposition in Yemen even though Hadi's term was even freaking expired, actually were arming the saudis so they can bomb civilians there just like what were blaming Assad for doing.

5- Oh and btw Assad shouldnt kill civilians when fighting terrorists even though weve done the same in every war weve fought.

6- We just want to spread freedom guys
This is why you are a crazy person. We don't have one and almost never have. And that includes within an individual administration.
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Also, Julian Assange is a rapist.

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Starting from which date?

Going to guess at least when Assange took that RT job but maybe as early as when he fled from the rape charges.
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

Also, Julian Assange is a rapist.

Stone him?
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Also, Julian Assange is a rapist.

If you have a video of him talking about pussy groping ill gladly forget all the world influencing matters he exposed and follow that story instead
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This is why you are a crazy person. We don't have one and almost never have. And that includes within an individual administration.

Lol. Crazy doesnt sound so bad now
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Alan, I have a serious question. What is the deal with 3a9for at Lebanese restaurants? They're so tiny. 

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Ethan you should work for the hillary campaign. Thats some great pivoting skills you have.

Whats the 9 supposed to be there?

You mean 3assfour? We eat what we hunt man. Those birds are skinny.
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I was in Beirut and curiously ordered one and the waiter laughed at only ordering one. We didn't understand why he was laughing until it came to the table lol. 

 

Do Lebanese not use 9 for ص or do you just not use ص at all? 

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