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post #2191 of 2692
As long as hezbollah is busy supporting Assad and getting killed I don't think the Israeli's will do anything.
Once Syria gets quiet again, and Hezbollah starts posturing again, yes..

Any bets on whether once the dust settles a Kurdish state exists?
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Any bets on whether once the dust settles a Kurdish state exists?

 

I don't think so. The US can't support a Kurdish state led by PKK affiliates on Turkey's border. 

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The conspiracy isn't that Isreal will invade, numbnuts. It's that Gulf States are close enough with Israel to know it and take action. 

Not a conspiracy either. Saudi and Israel do secretly work together since they have a common enemy,  Iran and Hizbullah

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Or that gcc is putting pressure due to support of assad & hba by cutting payments to the trash removal company. Garbage is flowing like a river now...

OR they are punishing Lebanon cause it didnt speak out against Iran for the Saudi Embassy fiasco.

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The conspiracy isn't that Isreal will invade, numbnuts. It's that Gulf States are close enough with Israel to know it and take action. 

 

Do you work an insult into every sentence you deliver in person?  I'm guessing not, since by now you'd have ingested half your teeth.

 

Anyway, if you knew anything about the ME you'd know that Saudi Arabia and Israel have a common enemy in Iran, which is a supporter of Hezbollah, and there are multiple confirmations of the behind-the-scenes cooperation between the Sauds and the Israelis.

 

Times Of London:

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1341561.ece

"Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency is working with Saudi officials"

 

Other reports confirming the Saudi-Israeli relationship come from the Israeli paper Haaretz and journalist Robert Parry's Consortium for Independent Journalism (Parry is the guy who broke most of the key Iran-Contra stories when he worked at the Associated Press).

post #2195 of 2692
I think Salman is like a greyhound that's been released on all the GCC's enemies and he's settling scores now. The cutting off of times with Lebanon has probably been a long time coming (being basically a proxy zone for Iran), but this is about the worst time to cut them off since it really hits them where it hurts. He just seems a bit unhinged ...
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"Reporters who cover Syria check with the Pentagon, the State Department, the White House, and think tank “experts.” After a spin on that soiled carousel, they feel they have covered all sides of the story. This form of stenography produces the pabulum that passes for news about Syria."

 

Replace "Syria" with anything and the paragraph remains true.

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"Reporters who cover Peyton Manning check with the Pentagon, the State Department, the White House, and think tank “experts.” After a spin on that soiled carousel, they feel they have covered all sides of the story. This form of stenography produces the pabulum that passes for news about Syria."

Replace "Syria" with anything and the paragraph remains true.

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"The sign of a totalitarian or authoritarian state is a media that feels no responsibility to investigate and to find the truth, accepting the role of propagandist instead." - Paul Craig Roberts

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Fuck every gulf state and its rulers. Im very happy things are escalating.

I wish the stupid among the sunnis here would wisen up and we could have some sort of national stance for once but that will never happen.

Fuckin saudi arabia, they financed both sides of the civil war in the 80s, then made billions in bonds in the 90s and under Hariri managed to steal billions in lands and assets here.

They can shove their aid up their ass. Those billions for the army that are supposed to help fight terrorists that they finance themselves. That aid was never coming.

And they talk about kicking Lebanese who nwork in the gulf while those lebanese were the ones who built Dubai and Saudi when it was a barren desert.

Fucking hell, we have oil reserves in our sea and the stupid saudi backed side here wont even let us get it.


Yes im bitter as hell about these retarded gulf monarchies that have been the source of every shitty thing in this region.



I hope the shiites who get kicked out of the gulf come and take over those saudis apartments in Beirut.

And a travel ban for gulfers from coming here couldnt make me happier. They havent been coming anyway for years now and their sight always ruined my summer.
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But how do you really feel? 

post #2202 of 2692
BTW the official story is because of Lebanons abstinence from voting on an arab league resolution condemning Iran.

It didnt vote against, it abstained from voting because the official government position is to be neutral in the sunni shiite conflict since half the country is on one side and the other half on the other.


And, saudi backed groups here have sent fighters to Syria long before Hezballah entered there. And Hariris men set up shop in Turkey when the conflict started and sent weapons and money and fighters there.

The difference is their people suck and the leaders just shove money in their pockets and the socalled fighters are retarded monkeys while Hezballah is a disciplined well trained morally guided organization.



But anyway, fuck them.
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Looks like ISIS has launched another attack on the YPG from Turkey. Awesome NATO allies they are. 

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It wouldnt be the first time NATO allied with radical islamists...

Saudi Arabia actively trying to destabilize lebanon's finance AND security situation. Reports are theyre trying to get the syrian refugee camps organized to create some sort of chaos and conflict here too.

So far it seems the United States has insisted that Lebanon remain stable and has been putting brakes on Saudis efforts
post #2205 of 2692
Saudi Arabia is just "ISIS that made it". So no it's not once or twice NATO allied with radical islamists, they are in long term relationship.
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