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post #1936 of 2692
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Originally Posted by tesseract View Post

Was there any reasoning in the evidence as to why overthrowing saddam would have been preferential for the US?

It fit the neocons' world view of democracy being spread throughout the Middle East on a wave of American exceptionalism. Plus Saddam tried to assassinate Bush Sr.
post #1937 of 2692
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No, saddam had previously launched rockets toward Israel (shahab 3 garbage that fell in the deserts) but supposedly was preparing chemical warheads after practicing on the Kurds and Iran. He was also compensating the families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

I vaguely remember the shahab 3 rockets on the news... I was like 12 years old at that time though. If i'm not mistaken chemical weapons were considered WMDs, right? Saddam used chemical weapons on the kurds multiple times, was there any explanation of where the chemical weapons went? I cant find anything except maybe they crossed over into Syria with no evidence except the fact that either assad or the rebels used chemical weapons at the start of the civil war.
post #1938 of 2692
Yemeni forces have managed to kill over 80 Saudi-led troops, including 42 Blackwater mercenaries, in a ballistic missile attack in the western Bab-el-Mandeb area.

The Yemeni army, backed by popular committees loyal to the Houthi Ansarullah movement, targeted a Saudi military headquarters in the Yemen’s southwestern province of Ta’izz with a Tochka ballistic missile on Sunday night, Yemen's Arabic-language al-Masirah news website reported.

Twenty-three Saudi, nine Emirati, and seven Moroccan forces, including a number of commanders, were also killed in the attack. Other reports said the attack left nearly 150 casualties among the Saudi-led forces.

The surface-to-surface missile also destroyed two Patriot missile systems, three Apache helicopters, more than 50 military vehicles, all belonging to the US Blackwater Worldwide security services company. The report added that two Saudi warships were damaged while fleeing the incoming Katyusha rockets that were fired spontaneously due to the missile impact.

Elsewhere, a Yemeni ballistic missile, named Qaher 1, hit a regional airport in the Saudi region of Jizan. There were no immediate reports of possible casualties and the extent of damage inflicted.

Meanwhile, a Yemeni army spokesman said the forces killed some 20 Sudanese mercenaries in an attack on Yemen’s southwestern province of Lahij.

Yemenis carry out these attacks in retaliation for Saudi strikes, launched with the aim of undermining Houthi Ansarullah movement and bringing back to power the country’s fugitive former president, Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi, a staunch ally of Riyadh.

More than 7,500 people have been killed and over 14,000 others injured since the strikes began. The Saudi war has also taken a heavy toll on the impoverished country’s facilities and infrastructure.

On Friday, Amnesty International slammed Saudi Arabia’s deliberate strikes on schools in Yemen as war crimes, calling for the prosecution of those involved in the attacks.

The International Committee of the Red Cross in Yemen also warned of a humanitarian catastrophe in the country, documenting over 100 airborne attacks on hospitals since March. It warned that that hospitals and healthcare facilities are no longer safe places for people.
post #1939 of 2692
Seriouy?
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Originally Posted by tesseract View Post

This has been something that puzzled me. America had the ability to revitalize Japan after WW2 alone with no help and the same with Germany with the help of other allied forces. Same thing with South Korea. What happened between the 1950s and now that we completely lost the ability to properly rebuild a country after the war was over?

Edited by NorCal - 12/14/15 at 10:50am
post #1940 of 2692
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post
 

 

 

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post #1941 of 2692
Saudi just announced an islamic military front "against terrorism" that has turkey, pakistan, nigeria and 34 states total.

I guess its time to reap isis benefits before russia and iran take it out
post #1942 of 2692
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Originally Posted by alan View Post

Saudi just announced an islamic military front "against terrorism" that has turkey, pakistan, nigeria and 34 states total.

I guess its time to reap isis benefits before russia and iran take it out
Can you please post a source?
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post #1944 of 2692

Thank you. It actually just popped up on my Facebook.

Countries involved in the coalition aside from Saudi Arabia, include Jordan, the UAE, Pakistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Turkey, Chad, Togo, Tunisia, Djibouti, Senegal, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Gabon, Guinea, the partially-recognized state of Palestine, the Islamic Federal Republic of the Comoros, Qatar, Cote d’Ivoire, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Maldives, Mali, Malaysia, Egypt, Morocco, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Yemen.

This is going to get fucking messy.
post #1945 of 2692
No it isn't. It will not do anything, although a few people will cash Saudi checks and eat in fancy conference rooms until the Saudis get tired of it.
post #1946 of 2692
Lebanon? Lol funny the lebanese sites just mentioned the announcement and didnt bother saying Lebanon was a part of it.

I wonder how that decision was made and by whom since we didnt hear of any talks or officials participating in any
post #1947 of 2692
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No it isn't. It will not do anything, although a few people will cash Saudi checks and eat in fancy conference rooms until the Saudis get tired of it.
We will see. The Saudis are an ISIS target and are going to use as much power as it can to hold its borders. This coalition is anti Russia with mixed allies and enemies with the US and NATO.
post #1948 of 2692
This coalition would fight the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and the Loch Ness Monster to a draw.
post #1949 of 2692
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This coalition would fight the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and the Loch Ness Monster to a draw.

nobody fucks with the loch ness monster, hes godzillas cousin.
post #1950 of 2692
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Originally Posted by alan View Post

Lebanon? Lol funny the lebanese sites just mentioned the announcement and didnt bother saying Lebanon was a part of it.

I wonder how that decision was made and by whom since we didnt hear of any talks or officials participating in any

according to bbc persian, lebanon is there. but no افغانستان or العـراق or ایران (all basically under one proxy/pseudo-empire lol)

عربستان سعودی، اردن، امارات متحده عربی، بحرین، بنگلادش، بنین، پاکستان، ترکیه، توگو، تونس، جیبوتی، چاد، ساحل عاج، سنگال، سودان، سومالی، سیرالئون، فلسطین، قطر، کومور، کویت، گابون، گینه،لبنان، لیبی، مالدیو، مالزی، مالی، مراکش، مصر، موریتانی، نیجر، نیجریه و یمن

http://www.bbc.com/persian/world/2015/12/151215_l03_saudi_isis_islamic_coalition?SThisFB
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