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Yeah havent u seen what all that american firepower has been doing to isis? Oh wait


Irrelevant. We're talking about air-to-air combat here. It's kind of like how Israel makes child's play out of destroying Syrian and Egyptian Air Forces but can't defeat Hizbollah. 

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Oh i wasnt doubting their ability. Just their willingness
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Did you read this in Russia Today? I'm talking about our jets as in jets piloted by Americans. If Russia took down one of our jets the Navy and Air Force would unleash holy hell on them. If you think that junky Russian equipment can hang with the Navy then you are sorely mistaken.

If I were President and Russia fired on one of our jets I would destroy all of their S400 batteries, shoot every one of their jets out of the sky, and bomb all of their runways to rubble. 

Russia may be fine for bombing civilians in Syria but they can't hang with the US military, which is what I meant.
You are misunderstanding what I wrote. When we give advanced military equipment to other countries we generally do not give them our current generation avionics software. The F16 was made in America but sold to turkey.
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You are misunderstanding what I wrote. When we give advanced military equipment to other countries we generally do not give them our current generation avionics software. The F16 was made in America but sold to turkey.


No, habibi, you are misunderstanding what I said. I didn't mean "our jet" as in a Turkish F-16. I meant "our jet" as a US Navy fighter jet piloted by a US Navy pilot. 

 

Russia can shoot down all of Turkey's jets for all I care. They are only using them to bomb the PKK in Iraq anyway. 

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No, habibi, you are misunderstanding what I said. I didn't mean "our jet" as in a Turkish F-16. I meant "our jet" as a US Navy fighter jet piloted by a US Navy pilot. 

Russia can shoot down all of Turkey's jets for all I care. They are only using them to bomb the PKK in Iraq anyway. 

So you made a totally hypothetical situation and are fighting about it? Also mr. Arrogant if we're talking navy fighter jets you are going to be seeing f18s.
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Sailors, and Marines still use F-16s.
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Sailors, and Marines still use F-16s.

This is true, however the first thing we would do is bring a fleet right into the Mediterranean and f16s aren't carrier based.
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The fact still remains that if the United States wanted to it could ground Russia's AF in Syria. And yes I did make up a hypothetical in which Russia fires on one of our jets. Why not? It's never going to happen but it's amusing to bash Russia's junky military equipment sometimes. 

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The fact still remains that if the United States wanted to it could ground Russia's AF in Syria. And yes I did make up a hypothetical in which Russia fires on one of our jets. Why not? It's never going to happen but it's amusing to bash Russia's junky military equipment sometimes. 

Oh no doubt about it. Russia doesn't stand a chance against the United States. Russia's entire standing army is 700,000 with 2/3rds of them one year conscripts, they have basically no logistical support as soon as they leave old Soviet states and their navy is a joke with a single aircraft carrier. Even their spetznas is only 17000 strong and mostly made up of conscripts.
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Oh no doubt about it. Russia doesn't stand a chance against the United States. Russia's entire standing army is 700,000 with 2/3rds of them one year conscripts, they have basically no logistical support as soon as they leave old Soviet states and their navy is a joke with a single aircraft carrier. Even their spetznas is only 17000 strong and mostly made up of conscripts.


Indeed. I wish there were reason to destroy these S400 batteries they've deployed in Latakia just to shut up all of the 3rd world trolls who masturbate over Russian junk. 

 

Speaking of Russia, Putin and Bibi are meeting to discuss coordination in Syria. What a despicable duo those two make. 

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Indeed. I wish there were reason to destroy these S400 batteries they've deployed in Latakia just to shut up all of the 3rd world trolls who masturbate over Russian junk. 

Speaking of Russia, Putin and Bibi are meeting to discuss coordination in Syria. What a despicable duo those two make. 

You lost me politically at all of this, I see turkey as a huge problem and the primary funders of ISIS.
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You lost me politically at all of this, I see turkey as a huge problem and the primary funders of ISIS.

The EU and Nato seem to be rewarding them lately
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The EU and Nato seem to be rewarding them lately

I know i just saw merkel is giving turkey 3 billion dollars. NATO is fighting itself basically.
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You lost me politically at all of this, I see turkey as a huge problem and the primary funders of ISIS.

what leads you to that conclusion?
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I know i just saw merkel is giving turkey 3 billion dollars. NATO is fighting itself basically.


NATO fighting itself is Ahrar al-Sham killing Jeysh as-Suwar fighters in Aleppo. US proxies vs. Turkish proxies. 

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