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Are you disputing the role that Saudi Arabia played/plays in the spread and funding of radical islam ethan?

 

No I'm just saying that the sources of modern takfiri jihadi are largely not Saudi. They are certainly guilty fomenting hatred and creating jihadis but the blame for the modern wave of takfirism rests, in my opinion, mostly on Zawahiri's shoulders. 

 

 

Look all I'm saying is that you can't blame on state or one regime for the revival of takfiri jihadism. Saudi may play a big role but it is certainly not the only player in the game. 


Edited by ethanm - 10/28/15 at 9:04am
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No I'm just saying that the sources of modern takfiri jihadi are largely not Saudi. They are certainly guilty fomenting hatred and creating jihadis but the blame for the modern wave of takfirism rests, in my opinion, mostly on Zawahiri's shoulders. 


Look all I'm saying is that you can't blame on state or one regime for the revival of takfiri jihadism. Saudi may play a big role but it is certainly not the only player in the game. 

You guys are talking past each other, Saudi Arabia plays a big role in financing various cultural activities, some of them linked to fundamentalism but they don't really produce that many thinkers that resonate within those fields. I'm pretty sure most people would agree with that.
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Yes. For example, side-wheelieing SUV's is probably Saudi's greatest cultural export and has nothing to do with jihadism.
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Yes. For example, side-wheelieing SUV's is probably Saudi's greatest cultural export and has nothing to do with jihadism.

I wouldn't know about that but financing arabic book fairs, tv series w. religious themes and western muslim scholars advancing Islamic studies are very common.
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^ While there is plenty of more spectacular stuff out out there. This is a master class in pushing the envelope:
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^ While there is plenty of more spectacular stuff out out there. This is a master class in pushing the envelope:
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^ While there is plenty of more spectacular stuff out out there. This is a master class in pushing the envelope:

What.the.fuck?
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I don't know if it's the same in Saudi but car insurance in Kuwait is subsidized so people are absolutely reckless with their driving.
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Road skating is pretty exciting too
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/world/middleeast/08drift.html?_r=0

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Drifting, which tends to attract poorer, more marginal men, has also been an unlikely nexus between homosexuality, crime and jihadism since it emerged 30 years ago. Homoerotic desire is a constant theme in Saudi songs and poems about drifting, and accomplished drifters are said to have their pick of the prettiest boys among the spectators.
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Fast and Furious 13: Riyadh?
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The drag racing thing is common in most of the countries in that region. Plenty illegal street races in UAE, Iran, etc. I've never heard anything about the stuff Finn quoted though
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Its an old article and I have no clue if its true or not, I just find the scenario funny.
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Funny, the Turkish ambassador in the Netherlands has been summoned to explain to our government why the AK party has (been able to) send letters to each Turkish resident here, telling them to vote for the AK party.

Its a serious diplomatic signal, that unfortunately will go unheeded. On my end I only see a lot of Dutch companies closing down their branches in Turkey, and selling of joint ventures. In addition there has been an uptick in turkish companies looking to move significant assets out of the country towards western europe..
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Oh boy, 50 (some say 20-30) Special Forces troops to be deployed to Syria. Maybe multiply that by 2 to account for the spooks who will accompany them. 

 

This is similar to the strategy that a lot of the SoF community advocated for in Afghanistan.

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