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post #1366 of 2692
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

Alan is 100% right, west is doing nothing to stop genocide of Christians in Syria, in fact they are aiding the efforts of Al-Nusra who is not that far from ISIS in terms of violence vs Christians, so yeah they have been treated like shit to say the least

Yes, it was an amazing wake-up call to lebanese christians when they realized how much the west disregards them.

This is why im especially allergic to some american supposedly hardline christians who always end up supporting every policy and everyone from saudi to israel against christian interests.

Money talks and christians as a community are viewed as small and disposable.


Look at Iraq, the removal of Saddam basically wiped out the christians there, thousands years old communities have disappeared. Syria as well, if not for Assad's survival.

In Lebanon in the 60s they wanted christians gone so they can naturalize palestinians here and relieve israel. In the 90s they sold Lebanon to a saudi-syria coalition which ended up with the christians persecuted for 15 years under an american brokered deal.



The western policies in the region are not driven by values but purely interests. This is why most christians in the region now are aligned with Russia-Iran-Hezballah. Theirs are just as interest-driven but at least for the foreseeable future as minorities as well you can expect mutual interests in most files.
post #1367 of 2692
Syrian army is making progress in Aleppo and other areas. So far small villages mostly.

Im waiting for the first big breakthrough before getting excited.

Reports are that Saudis shipped tons of advanced weapons to the terrorists lately.
post #1368 of 2692
ruling party in Iraq send letter to PM to ask Russia to strike vs ISIS in Iraq
so this thing has some chance of actually happening

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/21/uk-iraq-russia-idUKKCN0SF0HW20151021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0A8u-YOq0Y
post #1369 of 2692
Will be interesting to see how Abadi reacts. He has been under pressure from the states to keep his distance from Russia.

A lebanese paper headline today read "Abadi declares he is the US guy in Iraq", or something to that effect, implying hed comply and keep Russia away but i didn read the article to see whats that about. Or hell just keep walking the thin line that he is now.
post #1370 of 2692
Thread Starter 

Abadi is not going to run afoul of the United States, especially for Russia and it's sorry excuse for an air force. This is all nonsense propaganda. However, the real effect of this is that the US's insistence on keeping il hashd ish shabi out of the fight means that the IRGC is sending them to die in Syria. 

post #1371 of 2692
Seems relevant
post #1372 of 2692

I knew it just like the assassination of JFK,the death of Elvis ,mans walk on the moon and the bombing of the Twin Towers,the entire ME fiasco is a CIA production being filmed in an abandoned warehouse on a back lot in Hollywood

post #1373 of 2692
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

Abadi is not going to run afoul of the United States, especially for Russia and it's sorry excuse for an air force. This is all nonsense propaganda. However, the real effect of this is that the US's insistence on keeping il hashd ish shabi out of the fight means that the IRGC is sending them to die in Syria. 

Russia's airforce is probably 2n d or 3rd best in the world, it's enough vs ISIS, Abadi may even consider it to get a bonus from USA on arms deal or anything like that, it would be a smart thing to do. Not sure how strong is Iranian influence/lobby in Iraq and whether Russians really care that much about ISIS(to me it's more about keeping Assad in power). Only motivation for Russians to do this would be to play on USA's nose imo, but hey if asked maybe they could do it, Iran would probably like that if that meant that US influence would be decreased in the region.
post #1374 of 2692
Plus,

shitty airforce thats actually willing to bomb key terrorist targets >>>>>>>>> best airforce in the world that does joy rides to watch US tow missiles being delivered stirpot.gif
post #1375 of 2692
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Originally Posted by alan View Post

Plus,

shitty airforce thats actually willing to indiscriminately bomb civilians in support of Iran's terrorist proxies?

 

:deadhorse:

post #1376 of 2692
SAA stopped a major isis attack on the encircled Kweyres airport. Captured a town 8 km from it. 20 air raids by russia on isis positions around airport and in rakka. Just in case all of this will slip from some media sources
post #1377 of 2692
These guys are from the secular turkish party so i guess not as reliable as the terrorist sources

Two deputies from the main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP) have claimed that the government is against investigating Turkey's role in sending toxic sarin gas which was used in an attack on civilians in Syria in 2013 and in which over 1,300 Syrians were killed.
CHP deputies Eren Erdem and Ali Şeker held a press conference in İstanbul on Wednesday in which they claimed the investigation into allegations regarding Turkey's involvement in the procurement of sarin gas which was used in the chemical attack on a civil population and delivered to the terrorist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) to enable the attack was derailed.
Taking the floor first, Erdem stated that the Adana Chief Prosecutor's Office launched an investigation into allegations that sarin was sent to Syria from Turkey via several businessmen. An indictment followed regarding the accusations targeting the government.
"The MKE [Turkish Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation] is also an actor that is mentioned in the investigation file. Here is the indictment. All the details about how sarin was procured in Turkey and delivered to the terrorists, along with audio recordings, are inside the file," Erdem said while waving the file.
Erdem also noted that the prosecutor's office conducted detailed technical surveillance and found that an al-Qaeda militant, Hayyam Kasap, acquired sarin, adding: "Wiretapped phone conversations reveal the process of procuring the gas at specific addresses as well as the process of procuring the rockets that would fire the capsules containing the toxic gas. However, despite such solid evidence there has been no arrest in the case. Thirteen individuals were arrested during the first stage of the investigation but were later released, refuting government claims that it is fighting terrorism," Erdem noted.
Over 1,300 people were killed in the sarin gas attack in Ghouta and several other neighborhoods near the Syrian capital of Damascus, with the West quickly blaming the regime of Bashar al-Assad and Russia claiming it was a "false flag" operation aimed at making US military intervention in Syria possible.
Suburbs near Damascus were struck by rockets containing the toxic sarin gas in August 2013.
The purpose of the attack was allegedly to provoke a US military operation in Syria which would topple the Assad regime in line with the political agenda of then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his government.
CHP deputy Şeker spoke after Erdem, pointing out that the government misled the public on the issue by asserting that sarin was provided by Russia. The purpose was to create the perception that, according to Şeker, “Assad killed his people with sarin and that requires a US military intervention in Syria.”
He also underlined that all of the files and evidence from the investigation show a war crime was committed within the borders of the Turkish Republic.
"The investigation clearly indicates that those people who smuggled the chemicals required to procure sarin faced no difficulties, proving that Turkish intelligence was aware of their activities. While these people had to be in prison for their illegal acts, not a single person is in jail. Former prime ministers and the interior minister should be held accountable for their negligence in the incident," Şeker further commented.
post #1378 of 2692
Thread Starter 

كسر الحدود ونحر اليهود

 

Lamest rhymey genocidey video title ever. 

post #1379 of 2692
Kurds mistreating christians in hasaka. What else is new
post #1380 of 2692
Thread Starter 

Care to share what you're talking about? I find it hard to believe that it's not Arab chauvinist propaganda. 

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