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post #1036 of 2699
If the gulf shitheads has spent the money they did on arming and importing terrorists on the refugees they could have bought them a country....

Theres a lot of poor and shitty hellholes on this planet but gulf monarchies have to be the shittiest countries ever. Their combination of wealth, hatred and retardedness pisses me off to no end
post #1037 of 2699
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I like how Saudi's response to the refugee crisis is to build more hate spreading Wahhabi terrorist factories. 

post #1038 of 2699
And they "offer" it to the european countries. I bet they expect a thank you note
post #1039 of 2699
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This reminds me that Saudi gave some award to Anjem Choudary who is currently in prison for his support of ISIS. Real Islamic role model there... 

post #1040 of 2699
The prince also donated 27 million to a militant fundraiser against Israel and 10 million to the WTC foundation, which was returned because he had said, it was the us own fault etc etc.

They should have kidnapped and murdered him, when they had the chance.



http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/070715-760560-saudi-prince-alwaleed-could-turn-shariah-creep-into-full-trot.htm
Edited by Find Finn - 9/12/15 at 11:51pm
post #1041 of 2699
apologize but that's a really poorly-researched piece with plenty of misinformation. I know this is CE but this thread has had a slightly better standard than fear mongering paranoid nonsense. of course none of that excuses what "saudi" is doing with the promotion of an extreme and intolerant ideology. but somebody fills their purses to let this happen, as well...

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Honestly, European society is probably closer to urban society in Sham than Saudi is.
Also Kuwait is tiny and 99% desert. Not a lot of places to put anyone.
This is pretty accurate, I imagine. From all those I've encountered originating in the Levant, they feel much more at ease with Euros than other Arabs. In fact they generally pretend to be European. In Lebanon, for example, no matter your level of mastery of the Arabic language, you're basically an illiterate if you can't speak French -- just watch any Lebanese TV shows and it's so infused with this conviction that they are francophones...

Cultural differences aside, the populations in the khalij probably can't even sustain influxes larger than several thousands, given the geography and current demographics.
Edited by the shah - 9/13/15 at 6:23am
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Just because it failed with Nasser doesnt mean that it isnt the logical future step and makes the most sense.

that experiment was in part due to in vogue nature of experimenting with socialism = gateway to fascist state, and fueled by his disdain for religion/religious groups in a quest to assume the very absolute power he sought to rid the state of. It was during his time and subsequently sadat's that the MB grew into a more socially-aware organization presenting themselves as champions of the poor etc. abandoning their earlier more violent (relatively) ways.
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Alan did you listen to this new Zawahiri tape? I haven't had a chance but apparently he says that killing "crusaders,  shiites, and secularists" is a bigger matter than the illegitimate caliphate and one they could work with ISIS on. 

Where's Patreaus now saying we should work with AQ? Fucking moron. 

desperation seeps in , pledging allegiances left and right in a plight to remain relevant in this new market of boutique terrorist orgs.
post #1043 of 2699
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 -- just watch any LebaneseTV shows and it's so infused with this conviction that they are francophones...

 

Whenever I hear Lebanese people say bonjureyn I'm like

 

post #1044 of 2699
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From all those I've encountered originating in the Levant, they feel much more at ease with Euros than other Arabs. In fact they generally pretend to be European. In Lebanon, for example, no matter your level of mastery of the Arabic language, you're basically an illiterate if you can't speak French -- just watch any Lebanese TV shows and it's so infused with this conviction that they are francophones...

Cultural differences aside, the populations in the khalij probably can't even sustain influxes larger than several thousands, given the geography and current demographics.

Interesting cultural point on your first paragraph.

As far as your second goes re: "demographics", I'd only add that were the Syrian & Iraqi (Sunni or o/w) refugees willing to submit to a strictly segregated class society wherein they would join Pakistanis and other South Asians on the lowest rung, wear orange smocks, docilely perform menial labor in the tradition of indentured servitude, and have their movements, pay and communication tightly policed by a bunch of guys in gold aviators, white robes and white Land Cruisers with gold trim...well...Id imagine then the Saudis and other gulf states might all take in 10,000 or more.
post #1045 of 2699
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desperation seeps in , pledging allegiances left and right in a plight to remain relevant in this new market of boutique terrorist orgs.

 

My take is that this is leaving an opening for ISIS fighters to defect to AQ. With the world seemingly committed to destroying ISIS it allows great opportunity to grow in ISIS's shadow. If/when ISIS splinters, those fighters will just go to the closest group of crazies. 

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"Panel on migrations, human rights & Islamic Ethics in Doha"
post #1047 of 2699
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Meanwhile in Masr, security forces shoot and kill 12 Mexican tourists and their guides. 

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Meanwhile in Masr, security forces shoot and kill 12 Mexican tourists and their guides. 

prob bunch of illegals that crossed over in the desert after their forefathers were sent back upon completing the pyramids ?

but seriously how do you shoot up a group of tourists accidentally ? I get that mexicans and middle easterners can look alike but the official state line is that they were caught in crossfire between military and terrorists ... ? why were they even in a battle zone
post #1049 of 2699
shah that has to do with the previous french influence. During the ottoman rule, the french were the protectors of maronites and founded most schools and universities and missions in Lebanon, and taught the french language.

Then in 1918, lebanon became part of the french mandate. Our constitution and laws copy the french laws in many paragraphs and ways.

Even now most good schools teach in french and most are french schools, at least in christians areas. The rest are mostly english.

Even public schools in most areas teach biology, maths, etc... in french.


When i was young i was taught everything in French.

When ethan posted the elephant joke i didnt get it because we use the word "elephant" in french for the animal biggrin.gif we say "merci" for thank you, bonjour, etc... and actually never use the arab versions.


But even if for some idiots its a status symbol, for most its just the way they were taught in schools and universities.
post #1050 of 2699
I believe it's more prevalent among the Chririans ? At least it seemed so anecdotally. I mean no offense by this but I find the levant accent displeasing. Persian has also incorporated plenty of French vocabulary though not to the same extent and much more so voluntarily and until the previous generation that was the second language taught in schools (now it's Arabic and English and most don't learn either properly except to pass exams).
Edited by the shah - 9/14/15 at 3:36am
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