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post #16 of 49
i like the Philly rolls too. comes with a cream cheese inside of it and some fish. very lovely and tasty.
post #17 of 49
Just because it's not authentic doesn't mean it isn't sushi in the technical sense.
post #18 of 49
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I love all sushi/sashimi. From Anago to Uni. As for the rolls, I prefer the more local ones which the local chefs come up with, sometimes from customer suggestions. One common one I love is the Shiitake roll. There are some fantastic rolls at the world's best sushi bar in San Marcos, Katsu. And, many of them are extremely filling. I usually start out with albacore sashimi and end with uni. In between, I like to have various types of sushi. Sometimes Maguro; some salmon; Hotategai.
Mmm. I know some people are traditionalists, but I'll eat pretty much all sushi outside of the California Roll. I especially like shellfish efforts such as lobster sashimi and crab and roe maki. I dunno' if that makes my taste in sushi pedestrian, but whatever. It's all good.
post #19 of 49
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Originally Posted by jonglover View Post
Just because it's not authentic doesn't mean it isn't sushi in the technical sense.

Indeed. If it isn't sushi, what is it?
post #20 of 49
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God, most California rolls are disgusting. The "crab" they put in them tastes like and has the texture of the strings on a Koosh ball.
Yeah I agree, that fake crab meat is nasty... I don't know why California rolls became so popular, I really wish it wasn't the case. How do you guys handle eating sushi out with people who really don't understand it that well, and don't realize sushi is something thats to be learned... from what to order to etiquette, they insist on doing their own thing .... Normally I wouldn't care, if it was any other restaurant besides sushi, this wouldn't bother me. When I was new, I realized the magnitude of sushi and spent time observing/learning from people who knew more then me, etc.
post #21 of 49
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Yeah I agree, that fake crab meat is nasty...

I don't know why California rolls became so popular, I really wish it wasn't the case.


How do you guys handle eating sushi out with people who really don't understand it that well, and don't realize sushi is something thats to be learned... from what to order to etiquette, they insist on doing their own thing .... Normally I wouldn't care, if it was any other restaurant besides sushi, this wouldn't bother me.

When I was new, I realized the magnitude of sushi and spent time observing/learning from people who knew more then me, etc.

This is kind of an inane statement. It's food - people can order what they want. If someone wants to order 20 philly rolls, whatever.

I don't care for people's primitive religious rituals and that extends to food.
post #22 of 49
i love sea urchin roe sushi.

it has to be good quality and very fresh though.

mmmmm...just thinking about it makes me want to go get some sea urchin roe sushi.
post #23 of 49
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If I gave someone a bowl of vinegared rice, no one would call it sushi even if that's the literal origin. I think sushi as we understand it is something else. But you're right.

My answer was strictly within a context of the original question concerning California roll. Of course, nobody is suggesting that any rice dish, e. g. risotto (technically also 'seasoned rice'...), is sushi.

However, there is a simple vinagered rice, that is served as a sushi - inarizushi (http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/c.../inarizus.html). Also, consider nigiri tamago - rice and egg omelet... $0.02
post #24 of 49
that's like asking if chicago pizza is really pizza. yes, it is, just not authentic
post #25 of 49
I like sushi and I like California roll. Sue me you pretentious shits.
post #26 of 49
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If I gave someone a bowl of vinegared rice, no one would call it sushi even if that's the literal origin. I think sushi as we understand it is something else. But you're right.

Yes, but if you take a bowl of rice and sprinkle stuff over it, you get chirashizushi. But don't ask me to try to explain the difference between chirashizushi and donburi.

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Interesting. I would've expected it's the other way around. Sashimi being a lot more expensive as there's no rice 'filler.' But I mostly ate at the conveyor belt type places the times I was there so

Sashimi is generally just one course in a meal that at some point will also include rice. Sushi at kaitenzushi (conveyor belt sushi places) is generally considered a sort of upscale fast food.
post #27 of 49
California roll is an American invention that has been so widely adopted back here in the old country that it's a bit silly to argue whether or not it's authentic. The proof is in the pudding, as it were.
post #28 of 49
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Yes, but if you take a bowl of rice and sprinkle stuff over it, you get chirashizushi. But don't ask me to try to explain the difference between chirashizushi and donburi.



Sashimi is generally just one course in a meal that at some point will also include rice. Sushi at kaitenzushi (conveyor belt sushi places) is generally considered a sort of upscale fast food.

I thought Chirashi was classified as a type of Donburi. It's always the first thing I try when I go to a new sushi restaurant so I can get a taste for their style and quality.

My question is in Chirashi, are the fish slices considered sashimi? I wonder if it is or not, because generally speaking, sashimi seems much more expensive than nigiri (or a chirashi bowl). Uni sashimi is like $12 for 2 pieces, while as nigiri it's like $6 or 8 or something.
post #29 of 49
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red View Post
Sashimi is generally just one course in a meal that at some point will also include rice. Sushi at kaitenzushi (conveyor belt sushi places) is generally considered a sort of upscale fast food.
I bet it is. Eating a whole meal of just sashimi would be huge $$$. I ate at one real sushi place there, around Shinjuku. Boy was it pricy.. My wife lived in Tokyo for several years and she said they didn't really eat sushi as much as one might think. Only for special occasions. I think I eat it more here in the US than she did in Japan because of the $$$. Well, I've worked up a hankering for some otoro Can we agree that is some of the best shit!
post #30 of 49
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