probably a stupid question but whats some nice footwear i can wear with with my (black n khaki) chinos besides cp's?
Define "nice footwear"? Yeah, Alden Jumpers are sweet, but what about Gentleman Travelers, 3000 Mile boots, Timberland Boot Co., Alden Indys, W+H Service boots, Desert boots (Clarks, John Varvatos, plenty of others)? Or more dressy? I think with a decent pair of chinos, you can pretty much wear whatever you want: cap toe oxfords, wingtips, weirdo Paul Smith stuff, just gotta eye it up and see. I'd have no problems wearing, say, a pair of white Paul Smith brogues with a pair of khakis, rolled up to show ankle (or some nice dandy socks?) and a crisp button down shirt (or hell, chambray).
The last issues I have with these khakis is the rise, which could be a bit lower since I lack a backside. I shouldn't be a problem for most people who aren't as skinny as I am.
I really like the thickness and stiffness of the fabric, which is easily 9-10oz. I also like the price and the wide selection of sizes. I think if you're considering the lower-end khakis like GAP or J.Crew, I would seriously encourage you to give Dockers a shot.
Overall I think Benjamin's assessment is pretty fair. I got a pair in the British Khaki color and found them to be on the whole quite good, especially for the price. I, like Benjamin, am skinny, so I too would prefer a lower rise. But I don't think anyone would look at me in these pants and think the rise was too long (but still, I would like it maybe 3/4" - 1" lower). Some people mentioned that the taper was too much / too little for their taste, which makes sense because I think it's definitely a middle ground on taper. It definitely tapers, but it's not like a skinny jean. It's slim and therefore is probably more timeless. I don't think these are gonna look bad in 5, 10 years. Also, I found them to feel a bit slimmer than J Crew's urban slim fit. In addition, the hem at the opening is a jean-style hem of about 1/2" (whereas many khakis / chinos have a thicker hem of about 1.5") and I think that makes for a better break / cleaner look as it transitions into your shoes.
My only complaint (other than the rise) is that the front pockets are pretty deep, and I prefer a shallower pocket as I often carry my phone in my front pocket. When I put my iPhone in these chinos, it rests about mid-thigh. I think the pocket could lose 1.5" of depth, at the risk of us losing some change.
FWIW, my friend is a bit more muscular than I am (I am 6'2" and 155 and he is 6'2" and 170) and they look great on him. So I think this might be a very good option for someone with a more average build, as opposed to skinny people. But that being said, you could do much worse.
It depends on what needs to be slimmed down. It's usually more than just the thighs because at that point, the seat and crotch will look unbalanced.
My tailor, who I would consider in the middle range, charges me about $60-70 to taper the thighs, legs, take in the crotch, and seat. This basically turns a regular fit pair of pants into a slimming fitting one.
If you are looking for top quality the best option would be Incotex Red. They are not skinny (slim is the word here), the fit is fantastic and the look&feel is exactly what I want: still classic but with a contemporary edge (stone-washed, maybe with a coin-pocket, etc.)