gennaro paone: former head tailor of rubinacci

Well you are already working at capacity, but if you weren't, a few free suits to some important bloggers would make a huge difference. Imagine if Tweed in the City did an article, complete with red lines, showing how you have solved the divot issue. It would have all the drama and impact of Saul's conversion on the road to Damascus.

On a separate issue, do you know if other tailors (not you) allow you (not me) to stack coupons on top of the blogger discount?

Yes it would seem a bit tacky to ask for a review of a product that's reasonably priced and you have no 'name' behind you. Published in paper or at least highly trafficked and quoted.

To expand on my earlier point, someone really only has a qualification to review something if they have experienced several other makers of the same calibre, otherwise you have nothing to contrast your experiences against.



jedwards said:

Yes it would seem a bit tacky to ask for a review of a product that's reasonably priced and you have no 'name' behind you. Published in paper or at least highly trafficked and quoted.

To expand on my earlier point, someone really only has a qualification to review something if they have experienced several other makers of the same calibre, otherwise you have nothing to contrast your experiences against.

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That is true, which is why most credible bloggers require tailors to invest in 10 or 11 free suits. That ensures the blogger really understands the relationship and can write good, insightful posts.

jedwards said:

To expand on my earlier point, someone really only has a qualification to review something if they have experienced several other makers of the same calibre, otherwise you have nothing to contrast your experiences against.

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I've said this before, and I'll say it again. "Reviews" are silly, and make no sense. A story in which the central narrative is getting a suit made, whether it's your first or yout 50th, could be interesting. But suits are not cars. There are no crash test standards.

dopey said:

That is true, which is why most credible bloggers require tailors to invest in 10 or 11 free suits. That ensures the blogger really understands the relationship and can write good, insightful posts.

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Here is a man who understands that world. Dear @dopey , I am not even a blogger, but I do own a menswear forum. Would you be so good as to introduce me to your tailor, with the understanding that you would facilitate this transaction? Your commission would be 10% of the suits.



David Reeves said:

Well don't waste the mans time then.

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Exactly my thought. Tailors aren't set up for window shopping. If you aren't going to order something, you'll just be a couple of dudes hanging out in a hotel room.



dopey said:

Well you are already working at capacity, but if you weren't, a few free suits to some important bloggers would make a huge difference. Imagine if Tweed in the City did an article, complete with red lines, showing how you have solved the divot issue. It would have all the drama and impact of Saul's conversion on the road to Damascus.

On a separate issue, do you know if other tailors (not you) allow you (not me) to stack coupons on top of the blogger discount?

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One suit for multiple red lines? Where's the deal in that for me?

But what if the one suit became the OneSuit, i.e., no red lines needed?



LA Guy said:

Here is a man who understands that world.  Dear @dopey
 , I am not even a blogger, but I do own a menswear forum.  Would you be so good as to introduce me to your tailor, with the understanding that you would facilitate this transaction?  Your commission would be 10% of the suits.  

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This is excellent timing my friend. I have recently placed a commission for twenty quality bespoke suits from my first-class tailor. He has agreed to refund to me the cost of ten of those suits and make them free for the owner of a quality menswear site who will help provide same with publicity. At the moment, I am waiting for a wire transfer to me of the cost of those refunded suits, but, because of certain political machinations the funds are landlocked. If you are able to assist me retrieve these funds, I can arrange to share in this beneficience as well as arrange for the suits to be made to your specifications. Please advise as soon as possible of your availability as I have been recommended to another menswear site owner.



LA Guy said:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.  "Reviews" are silly, and make no sense.  A story in which the central narrative is getting a suit made, whether it's your first or yout 50th, could be interesting.  But suits are not cars.  There are no crash test standards.

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Disagree with this a little bit.

Review is perhaps overstretching the word - or maybe an entirely incorrect missapropriation if the word.

But as a short hand - well tailors and suits do differ enormously.... I've had some makers that take 6 -7 fittings and others 2 and you're out the door. That's before we even get to stylistic and construction differences.

Now 6-7 fittings is neither good nor bad.
Nor is 2 good.

But it is significant if you are on a schedule and someone who is not particularly interested in the process and just wants to get a bespoke garment as quickly as possible.

So, for good or bad, websites like Simon's do seem to give an indication of the many different ways in which tailors work. If you know nothing of the process or which house to choose, and things like timeframes and price do happen to be sensitive spots for you, then what other word would you give it other than a "review?"

Unless he gets rid of the other suits, it's the TwoSuit .



dopey said:

Well you are already working at capacity, but if you weren't, a few free suits to some important bloggers would make a huge difference. Imagine if Tweed in the City did an article, complete with red lines, showing how you have solved the divot issue. It would have all the drama and impact of Saul's conversion on the road to Damascus.

On a separate issue, do you know if other tailors (not you) allow you (not me) to stack coupons on top of the blogger discount?

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I just don't think he would be objective. In any case there are many examples of finished work on my instagram and affiliate thread including fit pictures on real clients.

I am pretty much at capacity because I have an unassailable reputation with real paying customers. Maybe I could have got to this point just through advertising, who knows.



dopey said:

as I have been recommended to another menswear site owner.

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Rambo?

dopey said:

This is excellent timing my friend. I have recently placed a commission for twenty quality bespoke suits from my first-class tailor. He has agreed to refund to me the cost of ten of those suits and make them free for the owner of a quality menswear site who will help provide same with publicity. At the moment, I am waiting for a wire transfer to me of the cost of those refunded suits, but, because of certain political machinations the funds are landlocked. If you are able to assist me retrieve these funds, I can arrange to share in this beneficience as well as arrange for the suits to be made to your specifications. Please advise as soon as possible of your availability as I have been recommended to another menswear site owner.

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Oh crap. I was late. I suppose that that means that I missed my opportunity...

jedwards said:

Disagree with this a little bit.

Review is perhaps overstretching the word - or maybe an entirely incorrect missapropriation if the word.

But as a short hand - well tailors and suits do differ enormously.... I've had some makers that take 6 -7 fittings and others 2 and you're out the door. That's before we even get to stylistic and construction differences.

Now 6-7 fittings is neither good nor bad.
Nor is 2 good.

But it is significant if you are on a schedule and someone who is not particularly interested in the process and just wants to get a bespoke garment as quickly as possible.

So, for good or bad, websites like Simon's do seem to give an indication of the many different ways in which tailors work. If you know nothing of the process or which house to choose, and things like timeframes and price do happen to be sensitive spots for you, then what other word would you give it other than a "review?"

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You can get the information about fittings and pricing (or at least a range) over the phone, and the answer, even then, is variable, and depends on the tailor, but also, the client, and what they want. There are some clients that are easier to fit, and others, harder. And some clients are pickier than others. Re. pricing. A tailor has zero incentive to not tell you. If they hedge, it's because there is a range, depending on the options you choose. No tailor is going to pull a fast one over on a client. It's not "Oh, the suit will be $2.5K", and then, at the end of the first fitting, "Actually, with everything, it will come to $6K".

I would call it a story. You can get an idea of what might be possible, what the tailor bills himself as, what one man's experience was like. And you get some really nice pictures.



Tried and True said:

The advertising for writeup quid pro quo has be a staple of journalism for eons.

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ahem. "journalism" is a very broad brush. just saying. that would be a probably firing offense in my shop.