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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

Jenner's photo on Vanity Fair is being criticised for pendantistry.

I happen to be quite familiar with the alter stuff out there and pendantistry is not one of them.
post #47 of 146
Has anyone written a scathing editorial condemning the photoshopped cover for setting impossible standards for transvestites?
post #48 of 146
Why does Caitlyn capture our attention?

Because She's a Real Dog

post #49 of 146
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Has anyone written a scathing editorial condemning the photoshopped cover for setting impossible standards for transvestites?

Caitlyn is a transgender tansvestite and not just a transvestite. Big difference.

One could be a Bull Dagger Transgender ( a BDT )and not be a transvestite.

And Jenner appears to be a transgender transvestite, though not a trans-sexual transvestite.

He/She added boobies and did a hormone treatment, but reportedly did not whack his Johnson nor nuts off!

This is above my paygrade, and I am old and basically of the last millennium.

Help me, so what is He/She Caitlyn? is it a TTHT ( Transgender, Transvestite, Half Trans-sexual ) or what?
post #50 of 146
Anyone read the essay on Transphobia by Gavin Mcinnes?

Caused a lot of internet anger when it was (briefly) published on Thought Catalog:

Wait—you’re transphobic?
You have a problem with a guy having his penis removed? He’s a chick, you asshole. God fucked up and made him a dude, but luckily we have the technology to fix that mistake. Why couldn’t he just be a drag queen? Well, for one, he needs to feel a penis inside him. No, his butt doesn’t count. He needs to feel a penis go in and out of his vagina—you know, like all women crave. That feeling of having your vagina fucked. It’s a primal urge, and to deny some woman this feeling just because she’s a dude is downright barbaric.

Haven’t you seen all the totally functional, happily married, normal trannies walking around? They aren’t all dead, you know. They sell flowers at the local village and bake pies for their scores of adopted children. They’re non-heteronormative. In fact, the only thing more normal than castrating yourself and taking tons of hormones to grow tits is chopping them off.

Women who get double mastectomies and then have their cunts turned inside out are just righting a wrong. They need to have a weird cheese blintz-looking thing sticking out of their previous cooch because it feels way better than wearing a strap-on. Sure, the nerve endings aren’t the same as a real dick, but standing up to go pee pee is something these women were born to do. How dare you have a problem with that?

You will be totally comfortable when your daughter marries a post-op dude and you should have no problems with her smoking his blintz. When your dad tells you he is going to have his penis removed and thrown into a biowaste container at the hospital, your soul will become a placid lake of calm. “That’s totally normal, dad” you’llsay and begin to call him Mom2 from that day forward. When Janet Mock appears on MSNBC and talks about growing up as a black chick, nobody’s going to bat an eye. We’ll all be totally comfortable with him retroactively rewriting history and putting a skirt on all his boyhood memories.

I kid. I kid. Of course it’s fucking unusual. We’re all transphobic. We aren’t blind. We see there are no old trannies. They die of drug overdoses and suicide way before they’re 40 and nobody notices because nobody knows them. They are mentally ill gays who need help, and that help doesn’t include being maimed by physicians. These aren’t women trapped in a man’s body. They are nuts trapped in a crazy person’s body. I see them on the streets of New York. They are guys with tits and a sweatshirt.

They wear jeans and New Balance. “What’s the matter with simply being a fag who wears makeup?” I think when I see them. You’re not a woman. You’re a tomboy at best. Get fucked in the ass. And ladies, if you’re a butch lesbian, you’re a lady with a lot of testosterone. Put a dick on a belt and fuck your girlfriend. You don’t need to turn your vagina inside out. You’re not a man. You don’t even know what Turf Builder is.

By pretending this is all perfectly sane, you are enabling these poor bastards to mutilate themselves. This insane war on pronouns is about telling people what to do. It may empower you to shut down a school’s computer system because they phrased your gender wrong, but that’s just a game to you. To them, it’s a life-changing event that fucks them up. To fight against transphobia is to justify trannies. To justify trannies is to allow mentally ill people to mutilate themselves. When your actions are getting people mutilated, you’re at war with them.

It’s not great for women, either. Buying woman parts from a hospital and calling yourself a broad trivializes what it is to be a woman. Womanhood is not on a shelf next to wigs and makeup. Similarly, being a dude is quite involved. Ripping your vaginal canal out of your fly doesn’t mean you are going to start inventing shit and knowing how cement works. Being a man is awesome. So is being a woman.

We should revere these creations, not revel in their bastardization. Being gay is a weird quirk that happens at birth. It’s like being an albino. If you’re born that way, you shouldn’t fight it. You don’t need to change who you are. In fact, doing so is sexist, misandrist, homophobic, and further damages the lives of the mentally ill.
post #51 of 146
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/caitlyn-jenner-richer-kardashians-experts-article-1.2244402

Caitlyn Jenner could become wealthier than the Kardashians, experts say
post #52 of 146
So what is it? What is the approved term for a transgender, transvestite trans-sexual with nuts.

A TTTSN?

And it's heterosexual now I guess. If the Nuts are still on the Cherry, is the Caboose loose?
post #53 of 146
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Caitlyn is a transgender tansvestite and not just a transvestite. Big difference.

One could be a Bull Dagger Transgender ( a BDT )and not be a transvestite.

And Jenner appears to be a transgender transvestite, though not a trans-sexual transvestite.

He/She added boobies and did a hormone treatment, but reportedly did not whack his Johnson nor nuts off!

This is above my paygrade, and I am old and basically of the last millennium.

Help me, so what is He/She Caitlyn? is it a TTHT ( Transgender, Transvestite, Half Trans-sexual ) or what?

I'll play your game. The term you are struggling to find is ... woman.

She was assigned the sex of male at birth and has the gender identity of a woman. It's proper/respectful/whatever to use the gender identity preferred by each person. In this case, she identifies as a woman, so you call her a woman. How she chooses to transition (hair, dress, hormones, name, lack of surgery), is meaningless in what you call her.

If you or others prefer different terminology, it's your prerogative. I realize that the concept of gender identity, transitioning, etc. is unfamiliar and makes some people uncomfortable, but the associated terminology for a transgender person is not complicated. If someone self-identifies as a woman, call her a woman.

If you want to further label her, she likes women. Women who like women are called lesbians. So, she also is a lesbian.
post #54 of 146
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If you want to further label her, she likes women. Women who like women are called lesbians. So, she also is a lesbian.

Thanks, you explained it well. Now I see why she kept the Johnson.

She's a Lesbian Woman with a Johnson. An LWJ, and I can definitely see why an LWJ would want to keep the Johnson.

She now has many options available. Such as if she is a lesbian woman that enjoys anal sex, she can do her partner or herself with her own Johnson, and not a strap-on. Now that is admirable and she is one smart woman.

And obviously, she has a leg up on other lesbian women that were born without a Johnson.
Edited by rnoldh - 6/2/15 at 11:19pm
post #55 of 146
He says he always felt like that. But i wonder how much of an influence living with all thise girls in his family for ao long, a strong dominant wife, and all the attention whoring they do, had on him.

Had he lived with his boys all that time, could he have felt different?

I have two sisters and no brothers, should i be worried
post #56 of 146
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Originally Posted by zbromer View Post

I'll play your game. The term you are struggling to find is ... woman.

She was assigned the sex of male at birth and has the gender identity of a woman. It's proper/respectful/whatever to use the gender identity preferred by each person. In this case, she identifies as a woman, so you call her a woman. How she chooses to transition (hair, dress, hormones, name, lack of surgery), is meaningless in what you call her.

If you or others prefer different terminology, it's your prerogative. I realize that the concept of gender identity, transitioning, etc. is unfamiliar and makes some people uncomfortable, but the associated terminology for a transgender person is not complicated. If someone self-identifies as a woman, call her a woman.

If you want to further label her, she likes women. Women who like women are called lesbians. So, she also is a lesbian.
This is stupid talk. If you want to make the case that the nice thing to do is to call Caitlin whatever she wants to make him happy, that is fine. Being nice to people is a good value. But when the premise rests on college-talk it is hard for the rest of the argument to be heard.
I am happy to make Caitlin happy on the rare occasions when we actually talk to each other so will call him what she wants when the time comes, but it seems to me the correct term is "boy in a homemade girl skin-suit."
post #57 of 146
Medical organizations, like the AMA, refer to sex assignment at birth and gender identity. They are not exactly radical concepts.

Someone asked what Caitlyn Jenner should be called. I said woman. As I said, if you or others prefer different terminology to refer to someone, that's your prerogative. Nobody is stopping you. Plus, you get internet points for being so witty with the terms you get to type out to a bunch of dudes on a clothing forum.
post #58 of 146
Bruce Jenner is a man. Chaz Bono is a woman. Bradley Manning is a man(ning).
post #59 of 146
Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner is a piece of shit. I don't see the need to assign gender roles to pieces of shit.


For the record, Sarina Valentina is a sexy lady.
post #60 of 146
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All of this gender talk leads right into Pumpkin-kin, Eagle-kin, Eel-kin, Bronie-kin, Screech-kin, and that wacky world.
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