I generally don't assign seasonality to colors. If you've ever seen a summer in SoCal then you'll see lots of browns, olives, and tans in the environment ('cause we get no rain) so it doesn't bother me. Fabric and texture, rather, are seasonal things. You could wear a tan jacket any time of year, but if it's camel hair it's F/W if it's cotton it's S/S.
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Classic Menswear Lounge - Page 209post #3122 of 33188/16/16 at 10:48amThread Starter
I'm from SD as it turns out (and I think you too). For some reason, I think Urban is as well...
You raise a fair point and I agree environmental contexts matter. Still, I would counter (with usual academic qualifications): It's difficult to talk about seasonality, in the current Sartorial sense, in a climate where, in a sense, there is no seasonality.
It's effectively spring/summer all the time in SD though desert evenings can be chilly.
If we move colors with the seasons in dress, it's to acknowledge the contrast that seasons often bring, even if for some, this "contrastive seasonality" can only be a dream or metaphor. The shift, say, from pastel green, forest green to "dustier" olives (spring, summer, fall) marks that conceptual contrast even if one happens to be stuck in a desert.
Ties and squares are a good place to indicate that passage even if one is inclined to light colored fresco suits year round.post #3123 of 33188/16/16 at 11:01ampost #3124 of 33188/16/16 at 11:24am
Well, very little of San Diego is desert. But you guys knew that, right?
However, your point about the seasonality of San Diego is an interesting one. What interests me is that I wonder if growing up in that kind of place contributed to my feeling that colors aren't seasonal. I wouldn't say San Diego is seasonless, just more subtle compared to other places. In any case, I can see how the peculiarity of it's seasons might change a person's perceptions on the matter.
Edited by Caustic Man - 8/16/16 at 11:55ampost #3125 of 33188/16/16 at 12:03pmpost #3126 of 33188/16/16 at 12:06pmpost #3127 of 33188/16/16 at 12:11pmpost #3128 of 33188/16/16 at 12:19pmpost #3129 of 33188/16/16 at 2:04pmpost #3130 of 33188/16/16 at 2:35pmpost #3131 of 33188/16/16 at 7:55pmpost #3132 of 33188/17/16 at 9:49amThread Starter
These are beautiful but my first impression is autumnal palette (mustard excepted). Vanda matka's.
Of course, many are wearable in summer but, allowing for the metaphorical contrast noted above, what makes something summer for color? I'm thinking of the pastel green, forest green, olive transition as something like a spring-summer-fall transition, but that's an impression.
Let's have some examples of summer palettes. I'll pull some from the SS 10/5 thread later.post #3133 of 33188/17/16 at 9:59amThread Starterpost #3134 of 33188/17/16 at 10:25amQuote:
I think it’s always been assumed that most colors have seasonal associations, else the textile industry’s classification ‘seasonless solids’ (viz., black, gray, navy, and white) would make no sense. Getting full agreement on the seasonal associations of all the others is unlikely, however—there are too many national, regional, and cultural differences for the effect on the observer to be truly intersubjective.
Some color names denote so large a range of possibilities that as a category they overlap seasons, although arguably specific colors within the range may not for any particular person. ‘Orange’ is a good example (it’s also one of my favorites since it combines so well with navy and other blues). The closer a particular instance tends toward the rust/brown side of the spectrum, which is to say the more it evokes the color of fall leaves, the more fall/winter the connotation is for me. The closer it approximates the color of the fruit from Florida, the more spring/summer it is for me.
Acpost #3135 of 33188/17/16 at 11:49amThread Starter
There's an interplay between saturation and brightness that might have a seasonal association even if the hues themselves also can be divided by seasons (to some extent). I agree with you with your take on orange which is, partly, reflecting shifts in brightness as seasonally relevant (related perhaps to amount of light in a day).
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