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post #106 of 269
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Wanted to show my wife the horror of the St Trop scene (she had never seen). We stayed in Ramatuelle though and it was only for a couple days on the road between Cassis and Eze

Last time I was there was in April and during the week, it was actually rather pleasantly deserted. We often vacationed there in the summer when I was a child, and I could never understand my parents' choice.

Given the crappy weather in the rest of France this August, it must have been double hell.
post #107 of 269
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Originally Posted by RJman View Post
His annual date with La Bardot.

Or maybe he has an unconfessed passion for Les gendarmes de St Tropez and went there on pilgrimage?
post #108 of 269
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Or maybe he has an unconfessed passion for Les gendarmes de St Tropez and went there on pilgrimage?

Have you read Rupert Everett's classic The Hairdressers of Saint-Tropez?
post #109 of 269
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Have you read Rupert Everett's classic The Hairdressers of Saint-Tropez?
A sequel to Les Parapluies de Cherbourg?
post #110 of 269
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Have you read Rupert Everett's classic The Hairdressers of Saint-Tropez?

No, but I do like the cover of the book. Recommended reading? I'm about to start "L'élégance du hérisson" by Muriel Barbery.
post #111 of 269
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Originally Posted by Viktri View Post
From the point of view of an Asian (my friend, not me, I hate the French language but love English) who is fluent in English, can speak/read French, has taken German and knows some Dutch, English and German have more similar gramatic structures than French has to English. Just because some of the words are derrived from Latin languages doesn't mean that the language descended from that language.

Case in point:
Japanese

Japanese has alot of Englishized words in their Katagana which are derived from English (Co-Hi means Cofee) but Japanese didn't evolve from English.

Cantonese (Chinese)

Same as Japanese.
Won Gou Wa = Cloud Brother Wa = Vancouver

I looked up English in Websters
English

Etymology: English \\Eng"lish\\, adjective. [Anglo-Saxon Englisc, from Engle, Angle, Engles, Angles, a tribe of Germans from the southeast of Sleswick, in Denmark, who settled in Britain and gave it the name of England. Compare to Anglican.]. (references)

Good point. Languages change with time. English language of today is not the same language spoken 500 years ago. Thus I would not argue with historical genealogy of English. I say it is irrelevant for any assessment of how easy or hard it would be for English-speaker to learn Russian. Since English speak modified Latin and Russians speak modified Slavic Esperanto (a weird salad of 10 languages).
As far as grammar and syntax German is closer to Russian than English and English is closer to Spanish or Italian than to German or French.
post #112 of 269
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Originally Posted by Teacher View Post
I can see you guys know absolutely nothing about linguistics, nor about language categorization. You just insult me and Americans, but provide no substancial arguments. First, lasbar, the Franks were Germanic. Charlamagne spoke Frankish, which was a Germanic language. I already said that some -- some -- words in modern English are from French. They are, however, not a majority. There are more English words of Germanic origin than of Norman origin. Even so, having some words of French origin does not make English a Romance language. You have completely ignored what I wrote about syntax, morphology, and phonetics/phonology and attacked me, saying I'm rewriting history.

So you won't take my word for it. How about this? Maybe you guys can actually learn something.

http://softrat.home.mindspring.com/germanic.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages

http://www.ned.univie.ac.at/publicat...n/germaans.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

http://ebbs.english.vt.edu/hel/hel.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...glish_language

http://www.m-w.com/help/faq/history.htm

http://www.krysstal.com/english.html

This took me just a few minutes, and that's just from Google. For books, you can look up the likes of Pyles and Algeo's Origins and Development of the English Language, Baugh's A History of the English Language, A Cultural History of English (forget the author's name), and The Story of English. For what many consider to be the definitive work on the subject, there's the outstanding but daunting Cambridge History of the English Language (8 volumes, I think).

Now, find me one credible source -- just one -- that classifies English as a Romance language.

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I give you one credible source: reality. The language spoken in GB or US has more French/Latin roots than Anglo/Saxon ones, thus making it Romanic/Latin based language.

Teacher,

I've already tried the tactic of using rational and reasonable arguments with dkzzz based on fact and logic. It doesn't work. The guy is convinced that he knows everything about everything, facts, evidence, and logic be damned.
post #113 of 269
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Teacher,

I've already tried the tactic of using rational and reasonable arguments with dkzzz based on fact and logic. It doesn't work. The guy is convinced that he knows everything about everything, facts, evidence, and logic be damned.

Odor things that you call facts are seem to you such simply because you like to quote other peoples thoughts.
Do you find strange comfort in repeating anything that comes your way, preferably in a written form or via TV?
post #114 of 269
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
Scott Storch seems to be the best American representative of Russian nouveau riche style

+1

Jon.
post #115 of 269
A little humor, as people's temper heat up on a Friday afternoon:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0314/p10s02-comv.htm
post #116 of 269
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Originally Posted by dkzzzz View Post
I give you one credible source: reality. The language spoken in GB or US has more French/Latin roots than Anglo/Saxon ones, thus making it Romanic/Latin based language.

This debate is hilarious!

That English has been influenced by, and has borrowed from, Romance languages, Arabic, Hindi, Indian dialiects, etc., is undeniable, but it does not preclude the fact that it is a Germanic language.

Americans in general speak poor English, so it is not surprising to me that some of them fail to grasp fully the origins of their own language.
post #117 of 269
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Originally Posted by Lucky Strike View Post
A sequel to Les Parapluies de Cherbourg?

No, although Les Demoiselles de Rochefort was on the other night. What a fun, happy movie. Nous sommes deux soeurs jumelles, nees sous la signe des Gemeaux...

Everett's book is sort of linked to his earlier novel, Hello Darling Are You Working?, which is about an omnisexual hustler (what else?).
post #118 of 269
it's all whiteguyese to me
post #119 of 269
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Originally Posted by dkzzzz View Post
Odor things that you call facts are seem to you such simply because you like to quote other peoples thoughts.
Do you find strange comfort in repeating anything that comes your way, preferably in a written form or via TV?

Of course, you are right! Why look at what is objectively true (i.e., what you read about something based on knowledge, experience, testing, etc.) when you can just "think for yourself" what the truth is!!!

I will try this next time I am in court.

Judge: Counselor, plaintiff's expert has opined that the product was defective because it lacked a safety switch. What is your proof to the contrary?

Me: Judge, the product is not defective because I say so.

Judge: Counselor, there is objective proof and testing that tends to show that the product is defective, leaving an issue of fact for the jury.

Me: Judge, you can't believe everything you read. Just because somebody does a test and the test confirms what they are saying, doesn't mean that it's a fact. Don't listen to what the expert says judge, think for yourself.

Judge: Why of course counselor! It is hereby ordered that the defense's motion for summary judgment is granted on the grounds that I am choosing to ignore credible objective evidence of a defect in the product and to think for myself! I find no cause of action, judgment to be entered in favor of the defense. Case closed.

post #120 of 269
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Of course, you are right! Why look at what is objectively true (i.e., what you read about something based on knowledge, experience, testing, etc.) when you can just "think for yourself" what the truth is!!!

I will try this next time I am in court.

Judge: Counselor, plaintiff's expert has opined that the product was defective because it lacked a safety switch. What is your proof to the contrary?

Me: Judge, the product is not defective because I say so.

Judge: Counselor, there is objective proof and testing that tends to show that the product is defective, leaving an issue of fact for the jury.

Me: Judge, you can't believe everything you read. Just because somebody does a test and the test confirms what they are saying, doesn't mean that it's a fact. Don't listen to what the expert says judge, think for yourself.

Judge: Why of course counselor! It is hereby ordered that the defense's motion for summary judgment is granted on the grounds that I am choosing to ignore credible objective evidence of a defect in the product and to think for myself! I find no cause of action, judgment to be entered in favor of the defense. Case closed.


It is a bad example.
What are logic and common sense, let alone evidence has to do with American judicial circus?
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