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post #31 of 35
9/7/07 at 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by rzi View Post
I'm not ruling out the necessity for a dermatologist as I started this thread wondering how I'd find a GOOD one.

Brian you said you've been to 5.. I'm trying to avoid that.

Also I've been looking for a facialist, but I don't know how to find a really top notch doctor...

What I have been doing is applying vinegar to my face after showers with a wash cloth, it's had the best effect on the pimples compared to basically everything, (benzoyl peroxide, clynsomething, doxy, sulfur etc..)

I apply vinegar every day and then I apply vitamin e from a gel pill in very small amounts to the pimples which seem to have cleansed themselves of whatever clogged them to help heal any scars etc. Also the ones I popped in a depressed angry frenzy seem to be fading from scar-dom.

Probably a dumb question, but if the vinegar is for anti-bacterial purposes, might you not get more bang for your buck using sometime other than right after you shower (before you go to bed, for instance), assuming you use some sort of anti-bacterial soap in the shower? That would also seem to reduce the risk of your leaving the house smelling like vinegar.

I realize your purpose was to get some help finding a derm. you're comfortable with rather than debate treatments options -- unfortunately I don't know anyone in your area.
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post #32 of 35
9/7/07 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by Omegablogger View Post
I wouldn't go that far but it's not that far from the mark.

A war was fought and science beat old wives tales, you either accept that or you don't. Medicine now is evidence based, it has to be proven to work to accepted standards. If it hasn't its not called medicine, it's called guessing, pulling it out your arse, crossing your fingers and hoping for the best. Running about squeezing vit e from capsules and putting them on your face seems to suggest that you think you know more than the entire medical community, you don't.

"You cannot sense whether a pill improves intelligence, or cures the common cold, or whether MMR causes autism. Your tiny, beautiful ingot of human experience in the world does not present you with sufficient information to spot patterns on that scale: it's like looking at the ceiling of the Sistine chapel with one eye through a very long cardboard tube."

http://www.badscience.net/?p=404

That applies to you, me and the Doctors. Let science be your guide.


Fair points, but some of the earlier posts highlight the fact that even doctors don't always understand the difference between good and bad science. The absence of a conclusive study establishing the effectiveness of a particular approach (diet or steaming, for example) is not the same thing as a conclusive study proving it to be useless.
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post #33 of 35
9/7/07 at 7:05pm
I would say avoid dermatologists until you want to receive a prescription for Accutane.
Dermatologists will never give you time of the day (or take your condition seriously). They dealing with so many more "terminal" problems daily, your acne condition seems unimportant to them.

That said, I would try to find the best cosmetologists possible. You need a skin specialist that performs deep-cleaning of your skin. It involves mechanical cleaning after steaming your face for a while.
If you have oily skin which is prone to camedons (blackheads) regular deep-cleaning is the best maintenance and prevention of your acne.

As far as long-term prognosis; no one will be able to tell you for sure. You might grow out of your acne by early twenties or you might have some problems in that area until you reach your 40s.

One thing is certain; to maintain clear skin you have to stick to working regiment religiously!

P.S. The only diet restriction that I think directly affecting formation of acne is Iodine rich foods. Try to avoid those.
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post #34 of 35
9/7/07 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by dkzzzz View Post
I would say avoid dermatologists until you want to receive a prescription for Accutane. Dermatologists will never give you time of the day (or take your condition seriously). They dealing with so many more "terminal" problems daily, your acne condition seems unimportant to them. That said, I would try to find the best cosmetologists possible. You need a skin specialist that performs deep-cleaning of your skin. It involves mechanical cleaning after steaming your face for a while. If you have oily skin which is prone to camedons (blackheads) regular deep-cleaning is the best maintenance and prevention of your acne. As far as long-term prognosis; no one will be able to tell you for sure. You might grow out of your acne by early twenties or you might have some problems in that area until you reach your 40s. One thing is certain; to maintain clear skin you have to stick to working regiment religiously! P.S. The only diet restriction that I think directly affecting formation of acne is Iodine rich foods. Try to avoid those.
This isn't entirely true, Accutane is only (mostly) prescribed these days for semi-serious or serious cases where nothing else has worked. But it does work almost every time. If you tell them you don't want it, they'll be more than happy to give you less aggressive medications. What foods are Iodine rich?
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post #35 of 35
9/7/07 at 9:36pm
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In my country, many doctors are quick to prescribe patients with drugs. I have a "healthy" adversion to mediocre docs trigger happy with Accutane and Doxycycline.. How many kids are on Riddalin for ADD/ADHD?? I'm willing to try a few drugs just not 5 dermatologists with 25 different pills. I want to find a really good facialist/dermatologist/cosmetolegist.
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