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post #15916 of 20004
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

SOTD: Guccy Envy

Tommi Sooni's prices are a tad ambitious IMO.  FB 50mL EDP for AUD$180. Samples at AUD$10 per 2 mL, or AUD$6.66 with a free sample thrown in for every 2 or more samples ordered.

That puts samples at $5/ml. The samples sites I've seen usually have niche samples at $4 or more, before shipping.

$AU180 will get you about 2/3 of a bottle of TF Private Label here. MFK, Malle and such-like are more like $400 a bottle here. The EDTs, which are EDP strength, are $160 and they are the frags targeted at men.

So, given they are a very small niche company and can ship locally cheap, I don't think they are asking an awful lot of money. YMMV of course.

Just an afterthought, but this perhaps reflects a comment made by Steven about how hard it is for him to sell in Australia. Simply this: why couldn't an Australian company make a perfume that is worth every bit of $180? Since you haven't even tried it, how do you know? Is it just that it is an unfamiliar label, or an Australian company? No offense meant, but it seems to be a trait of Australians that we readily dismiss our own achievements.compared to buying from those overseas.
Edited by California Dreamer - 5/5/13 at 8:54pm
post #15917 of 20004

^^^Certainly not my intention to dismiss Australian's achievements.  

 

Just by way of comparison, MFK samples are less than $2 per mL, delivered to my door via EMS.

 

MFK Aqua Universalis Forte at 40% concentration is 70mL for Euro$155. Acqua di Parma Colonia Intensa Oud is 100mL for $180. In comparison to $180 per 50mL/100mL asked by Tommi, $195 gets me a whole range from Armani Prive retail in Australia.

 

HdP samples are less than $2 per mL. Parfum D'Empire is even cheaper, not to mention Juliette Has a Gun, and other niche houses. Steven has to understand that the competition is global, and there are lots and lots of competitors asking for my same dollar. If I live in Australia and still cannot get a comparatively better deal from a local house, then logically I am inclined against it.

 

I would be inclined to say ambitious prices (just a tad, not exorbitantly over) for an unknown house with unknown pedigree.  The samples are just a tad too costly at $5 per mL, accentuated by the fact that they can ship locally at cheaper rates. 

post #15918 of 20004
OK, but you are still dismissing the value of the product without trying it. You don't know if it's worth it, and you're not prepared to spend $10 to find out.

All niche houses started as unknown brands with unknown pedigrees. If we don't support ventures like these because we only want to invest in known brands, then we will never see an Australian niche perfume industry.

Steven knows the competition is global, because he sells into Europe and the USA. His scents have won awards on the international stage. He can't seem to sell to Australians, probably due to our retail monopolies.

You're no doubt aware of firms like P. Johnson and Henry Carter. If we don't support such businesses they will die, because few others will. I can always buy a suit or a tie cheaper elsewhere; the point is do I want to support such ventures in Australia? My own personal opinion is I like Steven and I'd like to support what he's trying to do. In the context of the Australian retail market, where high-end brands cost $300-400 and even a knockoff frag costs $35, Steven's prices are a steal, so I'm prepared to save up to buy at some point. I know I can get some other high-end frags shipped from OS for the same or cheaper money, but they won't be Australian scents designed and made by Australians from Australian plants. That's the distinguishing thing that I'll happily pay for. YMMV.

Anyway, I guess this discussion might belong more on the Australia thread so I'll park it now.
post #15919 of 20004

Fair enough. Point taken. It would cost more than $10 though, hehe. Looking at the big picture, if I am already spending substantial sums on decants and splits and whatnots, $40 required to try the entire range is neither here nor there in terms of money saved/spent. 

 

What was your impression of the sample he brought?  

post #15920 of 20004
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post


What was your impression of the sample he brought?  

From my limited experience, I thought it was a great floral, wonderfully complex. It helped greatly having the designer there telling you what to look for, and also knowing what some of these plants smell like, such as the boronia, freesias etc. I could definitely make out at least some of them. The card sample was still active several hours later.

The ladies there uniformly loved it, and kept smelling it on the girl who applied some to her skin. I gave my wife the sample to smell and she liked it also. And she hates perfumes, as a rule.

Steven is talking about doing it again, so I'm hoping to get to smell the others without forking out for the online samples. He def owes me one, since I gave him a sample of my Dior Jules. biggrin.gif
post #15921 of 20004
Today: Geranium Pour Monsieur.
post #15922 of 20004
SOTD: Eau de Rochas Pour Homme.
post #15923 of 20004
Mona di Orio Oud.
post #15924 of 20004
MPG Jardin du Nil.
post #15925 of 20004
Today is L'Instant de Guerlain Homme.

Something's brought me out in a rash again. Since I wore TV and Tuscan Leather on the weekend, and had a reaction to Italian Cypress, I'm starting to think there's something in the Tom Ford range that doesn't like me. Bummer.
post #15926 of 20004
Interested in your input. The Melbourne BN crowd has a challenge at each meeting, and the last one was to try to identify a range of female classics from unlabelled decants. To be fair, the are going to do 10 male classics next time. The idea is mostly niche, but the odd mass-market classic.

Members contribute samples, and I have a few I could lend to them: Armani Code, Guerlain Vetiver, Chanel Pour Monsiuer, Caron Pour Homme and Creed MI, amongst a few others. (I'm thinking GIT or Aventus would be better than MI, but I don't have them). Any suggestions for "classics" that people ought to be able to identify? I can see if other guys have them.
post #15927 of 20004
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

Interested in your input. The Melbourne BN crowd has a challenge at each meeting, and the last one was to try to identify a range of female classics from unlabelled decants. To be fair, the are going to do 10 male classics next time. The idea is mostly niche, but the odd mass-market classic.

Members contribute samples, and I have a few I could lend to them: Armani Code, Guerlain Vetiver, Chanel Pour Monsiuer, Caron Pour Homme and Creed MI, amongst a few others. (I'm thinking GIT or Aventus would be better than MI, but I don't have them). Any suggestions for "classics" that people ought to be able to identify? I can see if other guys have them.

Dior Jules sample!? Well, he definitely owes you one!

 

My suggestions for classics: Eau Sauvage, Brut, Old Spice, Drakkar Noir, Acqua Di Gio, Issey Miyake L'Eau D'Issey, Fahrenheit, Aramis Tuscany.  A frag enthusiast should be able to nail all of these down pat.

post #15928 of 20004
This evening: Heeley Cuir Pleine Fleur - if you like leather, this is a masterpiece with leather that has this remarkable green violet leaf presence. I need a bottle of this.
post #15929 of 20004
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

Dior Jules sample!? Well, he definitely owes you one!

My suggestions for classics: Eau Sauvage, Brut, Old Spice, Drakkar Noir, Acqua Di Gio, Issey Miyake L'Eau D'Issey, Fahrenheit, Aramis Tuscany.  A frag enthusiast should be able to nail all of these down pat.

Like that list, but it might lean towards the mass-market a bit for the BN crowd. Maybe Acqua di Parma needs to be on there somewhere, and Terre d'Hermes.
post #15930 of 20004
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

Like that list, but it might lean towards the mass-market a bit for the BN crowd. Maybe Acqua di Parma needs to be on there somewhere, and Terre d'Hermes.
IMO, Terre d'Hermès is very "mass market", much more than say Eau Sauvage nowadays.
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