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post #1 of 115
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i don't want to hijack the prenup thread. give me a one good rational reason for a man to marry a woman.

and when i say rational, i mean, don't use "society's expectations" as a reason.
post #2 of 115
There is nothing rational about love in the first place so why look for rational arguments for marriage? I assume there some rational arguments, such as for example tax benefits for some people or access to citizenship. But I cannot imagine that a lot of people get married for "rational" reasons
post #3 of 115
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There is nothing rational about love in the first place so why look for rational arguments for marriage? I assume there some rational arguments, such as for example tax benefits for some people or access to citizenship. But I cannot imagine that a lot of people get married for "rational" reasons

i find it perfectly rational to love other people, as well as myself.
post #4 of 115
I don't know what you mean by rational then... Do you mean logical and guided by reason? Or do you simply mean sane?
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I don't know what you mean by rational then... Do you mean logical and guided by reason? Or do you simply mean sane?

let's say 'sensical'.

if you and your girlfriend are in love, what compelling reason is there to change the dynamics of the relationship? she wants a commitment? you want a commitment? marriage is not a commitment. you can get a divorce.
post #6 of 115
it's an opportunity to wear a tux? ?
post #7 of 115
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it's an opportunity to wear a tux? ?
not bad, but not enough.
post #8 of 115
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marriage is not a commitment. you can get a divorce.
It is actually a very important commitment. Nobody (but Trump and a couple others) really decides to get married with divorce in mind as a potential exit, especially if the couple decides against a pre-nup. In any case, that is the strongest commitment to a relationship that I can think of - a common child could also be construed as a strong commitment.

I got married because I felt it was the most beautiful gift I could give to the woman I love. And I felt that her marrying me was the most beautiful gift she could give me. Once you get married, a lot of things change in the couple psychology and the relationship - for the best in my experience. There is a stronger bond and a more trusting and intimate approach to living a life together.

None of this is "rational" IMO
post #9 of 115
How about because my wife and I wanted to show that we loved each other so much that we were willing to commit to a relationship with each other for for the rest of our lives?

I know, given the tone of your responses thus far, the above won't satisfy you, but it's the best I've got.
post #10 of 115
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It is actually a very important commitment. Nobody (but Trump and a couple others) decides to get married with divorce in mind as a potential exit, especially if the couple decides against a pre-nup.

I got married because I felt it was the most beautiful gift I could give to the woman I love. Once you get married, a lot of things change in the couple psychology and the relationship - for the best in my experience. There is a stronger bond and a more trusting and intimate approach to living a life together.

None of this is "rational" IMO

whether you have divorce in mind or not, it's there. it exists. it's an option. that's what makes the vows meaningless. if it's a matter of commitment creating a stronger bond, why not commit to each other in private? why is a judge or a priest necessary for you to commit to her? or is your word not good enough?
post #11 of 115
If you have to ask why should you marry, then you are not the marrying type and there is nothing wrong with that. Of course, love is a bitch and I'd like to hear your thoughts on marriage when you are balls deep, blindly in love with some broad and she tells you, "either shit or get off the pot".
post #12 of 115
here's my take. the "standard" way of doing it, in the US and much of the world, is to get married. once you have decided that you are commiting to a relationship, you get married.

now, you don't have to. no good reason to. but I think that most of the situations where people don't get married strike me like wearing a monicle or using a walking stick - you are going out of your way to stick out.

society, and the law, in the US are built around an assumption that couples that decide to stay together and live together for life will be married. not being married creates a burden, however minor, on you - you spend way too much time and effort dealing with that bullshit.

the assumption is that, when you get married, you will have kids, or, more accuratly, the assumption is that when a man and a woman form a lifelong relationship, they will have kids. it is a lot simpler to deal with the legal and administrative issues that surround kids if you are, in fact, married. and, frankly, it will be easier on the kids.


I spend most of the first part of my life, up until maybe 30, thinking that I wouldn't get married. then, when I met my wife, I realized that I wanted to form a lifelong partership with her, and getting married was the simplist way of doing so.
post #13 of 115
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whether you have divorce in mind or not, it's there. it exists. it's an option. that's what makes the vows meaningless. if it's a matter of commitment creating a stronger bond, why not commit to each other in private? why is a judge or a priest necessary for you to commit to her? or is your word not good enough?

I kinda don't understand why you are so virulently anti-marriage. Is it 'sensical' to spend hours online talking about clothes you don't need with the same gang of idiots (none of whom you'd recognize IRL) day after day? How much of what you do is 'sensical'?

Oh, and btw: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/13/news/spain.php
post #14 of 115
marry because you love another person. you really love that person that it is ok to go into the unknown of marriage..maybe some risk, maybe some sacrifice, maybe alot of sacrifice...who knows, but that is alright because of love.
post #15 of 115
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I'd like to hear your thoughts on marriage when you are balls deep, blindly in love with some broad and she tells you, "either shit or get off the pot".

i believe this is the most common scenario and the only one in which i can see myself getting married. however, i don't consider this a good reason, since it is based on the woman's fears and irrational desire for commitment.

i want to know if someone actually has a good reason.
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