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Here is a picture of the green loden

as you can see it is extremely green and way too far for my tastes. AFAIK olive chromepak is no more as horween ran out of the chemicals and doesn't plan on making more (if someone at viberg has said other wise please speak up). Viberg even said olive chromepak was dead stock when they made the 3sixteen colab.

I am personally more a fan of a tad more matt coloring btw. a super dark brown mat finish would be my ideal, but I need something that can take a beating.

fwiw, I think that the chromepak that Viberg will be receiving is called "brown chromepak", or at least that's what Guy said on the phone, and we had a pretty clear connection. I have not yet seen it, but I would assume that brown means a little more brown than olive.

Bummer. That was a seriously cool boot. That stacked heal was gorgeous enough for me to consider tossing my hat into the ring for my own pair.

So it's a 3Sixteen boot that's possibly coming out in the future?
Yes, and maybe. That stacked heel would be available to other stockists afterwards. Personally, I would feel bad about trying to get in too early, since Johan and Andrew paid for the R&D, and they are good guys besides that. I think that the first boot we make with that sole, we'd contribute a fraction of the proceeds to a charity of their choice. Sorta pay it forward and all of that.
 

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Damn...Hermes French calf. That's sick. Can we get some wallets?
1) They can't be green
2) They can't be breast wallets

But yeah, those sound sick. I am sorta, kinda thinking of throwing my personal hat in that ring, so that when I suit up, I have something slightly disreputable to wear, like a villain from a Dicken's story.
 

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fwiw, I think that the chromepak that Viberg will be receiving is called "brown chromepak", or at least that's what Guy said on the phone, and we had a pretty clear connection. I have not yet seen it, but I would assume that brown means a little more brown than olive.

I'd probably be in for brown chromepak too, is there any way to see a swatch or sample or something?

Also, when you said we'd have to order now, what exactly did that mean?
 

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#8. It's already pretty close, but I think we'd rather do semi-structure, brogue captoe, and a non-cxl black tongue of whatever the powers that be deem most appropriate.
sorry. Im only in for unstructured as well. Tbh I didn't even think you were considering a structured or semistuctured toes

EDIT: super super down for brown chomepak btw. again I dont want structured toe though.
 
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sorry. Im only in for unstructured as well. Tbh I didn't even think you were considering a structured or semistuctured toes
I'll go with the crowd on that. I'd prefer semi, but would be in for un- if that's what everyone wants.
 

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For the black Gentlemen's Shitkicker boot, we have a few options for leathers. One is a supple french calf, which is made by the factory that supplies Hermes. So, luxe. The other options are Guidi leathers of different types, as you know.

This boot would be more expensive than blue collar **** kicker, because the leather upcharge is significant whether we do the french or Guidi calf. It tacks on $80 to the retail, immediately. And then there is an upcharge for the brogued cap toe, etc... We might be able to bring it to under $800, shipped, but it would be just barely, since shipping is mucho expensive as well. Of course, you all are gentlemen, so there's that.

If James Bond were a SF member, this is the boot he would get. Supple, smooth French calf? Purrrrrrr..... (I'm just going off what Brooklyn Clothing Co's boot uses.)

As long as it's not TOO matte. I mean, might as well get a black oil tan if we end up settling for matte. Been there, tried that. No thanks. Not that I'm advocating shell cordovan shiny-ness either, though...

Ideally, we could use some pics of the calf up close. I'm assuming Guidi calf is an option (and not horsehide of some sort)?

And under $800 is still in typical Viberg price range, so that doesn't phase me personally.
 
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haha. yah. sorry. one of the biggest appeals for me is just how slim they are.
I think they look nice at first, but I'm not super impressed with how unstructured ages. As it collapses it looks worse and worse. In case you haven't already, do your homework on that and check out when aged unstructured toes look like and make sure you're ok with it...
 

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haha. yah. sorry. one of the biggest appeals for me is just how slim they are.
On the 2040 and the 2030 lasts, and the 2030 especially, I would definitely advocate for the unstructured, in the boots you guys are thinking about. Guy generally recommends the unstructured for the 2030 as well. But it's really up to you guys.

I have not changed the OP yet. You guys get it together and figure out final specis, and then I will.
 

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Guy generally recommends the unstructured for the 2030 as well. But it's really up to you guys.

Didn't Viberg say they were stopping doing unstructured for their in-house makeups specifically because they had longevity problems? I'm not opposed to unstructured, but I do think they look kinda jank after a while, and I have a 2030 with semi structure that i like a lot.
 
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If James Bond were a SF member, this is the boot he would get. Supple, smooth French calf? Purrrrrrr..... (I'm just going off what Brooklyn Clothing Co's boot uses.)

As long as it's not matte. I mean, might as well get a black oil tan if we end up settling for matte. Been there, tried that. No thanks.

And under $800 is still in typical Viberg price range, so that doesn't phase me personally.
No, not matte, but not as shiny as the high gloss, more rigid shell leather that is also available. I talked to Guy about this, and we both agreed that the more supple leather, is the way to go here. I think that a more supple leather jsut generally wears in better. These would be gentlemen's shitkickers, but shitkickers nonetheless, so you have to be able to wear them hard. and have the come out looking just as good.
 

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Since you are the guy who suggest the #20, I'm going to ask you to switch to the Bison on a mini-ripple. The boot cannot have the stacked leather midsole, though, as I explained. 3Sixteen gets first dibs if and when Viberg greenlights that for production. It will look more like the bison boot pictured, but on a white mini-ripple sole, so, considerably lower profile sole than the Vibram Moreflex sole.

That was on the top of my want list. At least itll come out eventually. How would it look without the stacked leather midsole? Would it just be shorter in height?

I believe there is dark brown bison and black bison. Which one were you thinking and if so what would take the place of the stacked leather midsole?

Personally, Im not into the scout boots. I dont like the stitching pattern.
 

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No, not matte, but not as shiny as the high gloss, more rigid shell leather that is also available. I talked to Guy about this, and we both agreed that the more supple leather, is the way to go here. I think that a more supple leather jsut generally wears in better. These would be gentlemen's shitkickers, but shitkickers nonetheless, so you have to be able to wear them hard. and have the come out looking just as good.

I may go with the black boot with this leather but only if it has 10 eyelets but since its not up for debate im out on this one.
 

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I'd probably be in for brown chromepak too, is there any way to see a swatch or sample or something?

Also, when you said we'd have to order now, what exactly did that mean?
I mean that we'd have to take the preorders during this round, but that the window would be longer than for the other boots. We could also wait until spring to do the preorders (that would mean that I would take the boot off the votes for this round), but that would just push the production into summer, seeing that, as Guy said, Viberg is slammed with production these days.
 

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