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Double the tax in NYC or 16.6%
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OK....so let's complicate things a little. How do you tip on the alcohol portion of a fine dining bill?
I agree $400 does seem excessive for this situation, and since I've never ordered anything above $200, I too am interested in other opinions.
If you do order the $2000 bottle, be prepared to tip at least 15% (assuming the overall service is satisfactory) on that. The argument that they didn't do anymore for it than a $50 bottle doesn't apply here, because that's not how the social custom of tipping works. If you order 2 waters that are refilled 4 times each, 2 $6 appetizers, 2 $16 entrees that comes with a salad, and two $7 deserts, do you tip more than if you ordered 2 $30 entrees and two $20 single malts, do you? I think not. Then you don't get to cheap out on tipping with the expensive bottle of wine. Plus, if you're throwing around $2000 on a single bottle of wine, I'm guessing the $300 to $400 on a tip isn't going to kill you.
I normally tip 20% on the pre-taxed amount. I've seen some creative restaurant bills with the tip amounts already calculated on the bottom on an after-tax basis.
Although I can't dispute that the accepted standard is either 15/20% of pre-tax totals, I've found that nearly every restaurant/bar I've worked in or learned the sales accounting practices of calculates support staff tipout and/or sets the guidelines for claiming waiter tips based on post-tax sales. I now tip based on the post-tax total of the check because of that bit of knowledge, and while I reiterate that I'm aware the social convention says to focus on pre-tax sales, it absolutely isn't the case that a restaurant is trying to be shady or milk more money out of you if it suggests to tip on a post-tax basis; the numbers there are just consistent with the way the rest of the restaurant's calculations work.
Do you know why restaurants do this?
Well tonight we went to Ground Round my bill came to $13.23 I left a $5 tip. I think that is more than reasonable. What say you?
I generally overtip for good service when the restaurant is inexpensive...it's nice to be able to just add a buck and turn a 20% tip into a 30% tip, and I figure I am evening out the night for the server who waited on some cheap-ass who left them a quarter.
Well tonight we went to Ground Round my bill came to $13.23 I left a $5 tip. I think that is more than reasonable. What say you?