Originally Posted by JLibourel
Originally Posted by suited
It's just a personal preference for me. I like the design of the glock and have never been a fan of the 1911's design, both aesthetically and function wise. A self defense scenario usually only involves a handful of rounds so the differences are muted, but if we are talking about taking a gun into combat I don't think there's any comparison between the two. I believe the SEALs just adopted the Glock 19 as their sidearm (although it's a preliminary report). I defer to the people who run reputable training schools and discourage students from using 1911 platforms in their classes, which can involve putting 1,000 rounds through a gun in a single day. Their advice is based on what they've seen after teaching thousands of students. Those guns just don't run as well under such scenarios. Granted, you could make a point that these classes don't reflect what you will encounter as a civilian.
Well, I went to quite a few "reputable training schools," mostly back in the '90s, including Gunsite, Front Sight and Thunder Ranch, and I never fired anything remotely close to 1,000 rounds a day. Frankly, that sounds pretty insane to me. I don't care how practiced or skilled a shooter is, after several hundred rounds, fatigue is going to set in and skill will deteriorate. That volume of fire sounds very counter-productive--unless maybe you were talking about a full-auto course, which isn't the case here. I've heard of 1911s firing 10,000 rounds non-stop without glitches or breakage. Heck, at the final service tests back in 1911 the Colt test pistol shot 6,000 rounds without a hitch. I suspect if 1911s are giving a lot of problems it has been because of tampering like too-tight accuracy jobs and such.
I have been to three courses with ITTS in the LA area over the past several years. Average round count was 600 or less for the entire two-day courses. I have seen more Glocks than 1911s break down in these courses, and I personally had more feed issues with my M&P40 than my 1911s during these courses, which included full days exposed in the rain with magazines dropping into the dirt.
Scotty Reitz of ITTS still advocates the 1911 platform and had Robar design a custom package to his specifications. I don't agree with everything he advocates, but he certainly knows a thing or two about using pistols under stress.
And putting Yeager's politics and personality aside, I have a hard time accepting any guidance from someone who runs a range like this: