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It's just a personal preference for me. I like the design of the glock and have never been a fan of the 1911's design, both aesthetically and function wise. A self defense scenario usually only involves a handful of rounds so the differences are muted, but if we are talking about taking a gun into combat I don't think there's any comparison between the two. I believe the SEALs just adopted the Glock 19 as their sidearm (although it's a preliminary report). I defer to the people who run reputable training schools and discourage students from using 1911 platforms in their classes, which can involve putting 1,000 rounds through a gun in a single day. Their advice is based on what they've seen after teaching thousands of students. Those guns just don't run as well under such scenarios. Granted, you could make a point that these classes don't reflect what you will encounter as a civilian.

Well, I went to quite a few "reputable training schools," mostly back in the '90s, including Gunsite, Front Sight and Thunder Ranch, and I never fired anything remotely close to 1,000 rounds a day. Frankly, that sounds pretty insane to me. I don't care how practiced or skilled a shooter is, after several hundred rounds, fatigue is going to set in and skill will deteriorate. That volume of fire sounds very counter-productive--unless maybe you were talking about a full-auto course, which isn't the case here. I've heard of 1911s firing 10,000 rounds non-stop without glitches or breakage. Heck, at the final service tests back in 1911 the Colt test pistol shot 6,000 rounds without a hitch. I suspect if 1911s are giving a lot of problems it has been because of tampering like too-tight accuracy jobs and such.
post #3467 of 3773
I replaced my G26 with the G43. It's a perfect carry for the work place. I could almost forget about it and it hides well under a sport coat.
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I had a bad time today at the range with said G43, maybe because it's too light. At 7-12 meters I was fine, right in the red of my target, but at 15 meters and up I could barely hit the paper. I'm not sure what in going wrong. I didn't have this problem with my .38 but don't want to use A wheel gun right now. Then after that messed with my confidence my shots were hitting the lower left when I pulled the target back closer.
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First time out with the revolver yesterday. Shared a target with my son, who is 13. This was at about 15 yards. Also put a few magazines through my XD9. Very pleased with the results.d91ccc7d1acbc633c6008a744ffe2afa.jpg

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Well, it's definitely dead.

post #3471 of 3773
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Originally Posted by noob15 View Post


Could I respectfully suggest you do some checking into Yeager's Bio. Not to say he doesn't have some interesting things to say, but just check into him.

To clarify, I've read and heard plenty about him. I mentioned Tactical Response strictly because of the number of students they train, which gives them experience in determining which guns do best during rigorous training classes. Certainly not saying that James or anyone at Tactical Response is the absolute best in the business.

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Well, I went to quite a few "reputable training schools," mostly back in the '90s, including Gunsite, Front Sight and Thunder Ranch, and I never fired anything remotely close to 1,000 rounds a day. Frankly, that sounds pretty insane to me. I don't care how practiced or skilled a shooter is, after several hundred rounds, fatigue is going to set in and skill will deteriorate.

The high round count is partially a marketing tool, I'm sure. There's certainly a perception that going through so many rounds must mean it's a thorough course, and it could be, but not if 500 of those rounds are under little to no supervision. It depends on how the class is structured and if it's 4 hours long or 12 hours with breaks. That high of a round count might not be productive in terms of developing one's skills, but could be a sort of torture test for a firearm - keeping in mind that a decease in shooting fundamentals due to exhaustion could produce some user-inflicted errors with the gun.
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Has anyone trained at " Storm Mountain"?
post #3473 of 3773
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Originally Posted by Mauro View Post

Pio,

You just need to find a better way to conceal your firearm. I am really considering doing a high end tactical line that doesn't look tactical.

so killing time at work and saw this. Come on man. MAKE THIS HAPPEN. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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I'm thinking about joining a local gun club. I did the math and in order for it to make sense financially I'd need to go about once a week. It would be nice to have a place to shoot indoors and not have to drive up into the woods to shoot (although I'd still do that to shoot clays).

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Originally Posted by VaderDave View Post

I'm thinking about joining a local gun club. I did the math and in order for it to make sense financially I'd need to go about once a week. It would be nice to have a place to shoot indoors and not have to drive up into the woods to shoot (although I'd still do that to shoot clays).

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i would. a buddy of mine joined one and he's always telling me about the training classes they have. Really wish i had something like that near me.
post #3476 of 3773
revolver guys.... have you checked out the new Kimber snubbie in .357?? looks amazing. Spoke to a friend last night whos at the shot shot this week....I guess it feels just as good as it looks. MSRP around 8-900 though.
post #3477 of 3773
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

i would. a buddy of mine joined one and he's always telling me about the training classes they have. Really wish i had something like that near me.

I did some more research and it turns out that the fee I thought was an annual fee is actually just a one-time fee. So the numbers make it more of a no-brainer if I'm going to go more than once a month. I expect I'll sign up the next time I go. biggrin.gif The classes look good, and a 10 percent discount on ammo and accessories is nice too.
post #3478 of 3773
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Originally Posted by VaderDave View Post

I did some more research and it turns out that the fee I thought was an annual fee is actually just a one-time fee. So the numbers make it more of a no-brainer if I'm going to go more than once a month. I expect I'll sign up the next time I go. biggrin.gif The classes look good, and a 10 percent discount on ammo and accessories is nice too.

VERY nice!! Im really surprised there isnt one near me. Theres a sportsmans club that has a free range and a nice clubhouse with a stocked pond for fishing. but its close to a 90 minute drive for me.
post #3479 of 3773
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Originally Posted by VaderDave View Post

I'm thinking about joining a local gun club. I did the math and in order for it to make sense financially I'd need to go about once a week. It would be nice to have a place to shoot indoors and not have to drive up into the woods to shoot (although I'd still do that to shoot clays).

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I wouldn't want to be shooting outside right now, but I much rather shoot outside to inside.

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I wouldn't want to be shooting outside right now, but I much rather shoot outside to inside.

I love shooting outside as well, but it's nice to have an indoor range to go to during the winter (or just when I want to swing by in the evening). I'll still head for the hills when I want to shoot clays or shoot longer ranges with my rifles. biggrin.gif
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