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Gottdamn JL knows his stuff! Very nice. I just liked the tale of the .38 being inadequate when the Filipino warriors were all jacked on drugs during Spanish-American war hahaha
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Your best bet once in court "after action" is to have used an engraved over under from the 1800s with a picture of a stag on it...

 

Or not shooting anyone; better.

 

But on a point of principle: a shotgun is entirely inappropriate for stalking, therefore the picture on your shotgun should perhaps be of a grouse or pheasant.  The stag motif can be applied to the lesser of your two rifles (the greater showing an elephant). :)

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Good point. Don't worry I was just jokin..mostly wink.gif
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Any recommendations for OWB holster + dual mag pouch for someone starting IDPA? Blade Tech and Comp-tac are the two I've been looking at. Blade Tech has an IDPA package that gets you both for a good price, but I'd rather buy once, and would happily lay out the extra cash if there's a reason to go for the Comp-tac (or another version of the Blade Tech). Pistol will be a Walther PPQ.
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Good point. Don't worry I was just jokin..mostly wink.gif

 

Oh, I know.  I don't even have a gun, I'm just English and therefore am compelled to express my innate pomposity.

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Or not shooting anyone; better.

But on a point of principle: a shotgun is entirely inappropriate for stalking, therefore the picture on your shotgun should perhaps be of a grouse or pheasant.  The stag motif can be applied to the lesser of your two rifles (the greater showing an elephant). smile.gif
Actually they are commonly used for deer in parts of the U.S. South thus the term "buck shot"
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Gottdamn JL knows his stuff! Very nice. I just liked the tale of the .38 being inadequate when the Filipino warriors were all jacked on drugs during Spanish-American war hahaha

The history is a little more complex. The Christian Filipinos had been fighting for independence from Spain before the Spanish-American War broke out. The Americans enlisted the help of the Filipino insurgents, then after the fighting with Spain ended, double-crossed them, and fighting broke out between the Filipinos and the Americans. This lasted for several years, and Ordnance's appraisal of the .38 revolver was that it had performed in a satisfactory manner in the fighting with the Filipinos.

After the fighting against the Christian Filipinos had simmered down, the Americans started to occupy Mindanao and some of the other islands in the vicinity. These people were Muslims and rather tougher nuts than the Filipinos, whom they loathed and despised. This was in 1901. Contrary to popular belief, we never fought "the Moros" collectively. There were always Moros who allied with the Americans. The Moro campaigns were mostly in the realm of police actions. Although the Moro "juramentados" (We'd call them "jihadis" today) did kill a few Americans, most of the fighting was against non-fanatical Moros who took exception to American cultural insensitivity to the traditional Moro ways--e.g., piracy, slave raiding, kidnapping and general brigandage. The demand for .45s arose almost as soon as the Americans entered Mindanao in 1901, which leads me to believe that the story of the stopping failures of the .38 against the Moros arose from very few incidents. As I remember, only about 136 American soldiers were KIA in 12 years of fighting against the Moro outlaws. Contrary to national mythology, when the troops did get .45s in their hands, they performed little if any better than the .38s against the Moros. This is unsurprising because the .45 loads were pretty feeble. The troops first got Colt Single Action Armies and some Model 1902 Colt double-actions. These took the old military load of a 238-grain bullet (I believe) at 770 fps. When the later Colt M1909 New Service was issued, it used a special cartridge driving a 250-grain bullet at 725 fps. The military .38 load used a 148-grain bullet at 770 fps.
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Where's the Wayne's World "we're not worthy" emoji anyway?
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Ruger appears to have really nailed it with their new Ruger Precision Rifle.

Street price of $1000, and folks shooting 1/2 MOA groups.
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Actually they are commonly used for deer in parts of the U.S. South thus the term "buck shot"

 

I would have thought that most people would use slugs, even from a shotgun..."buck shot" can't be effective (or humane) at much more than about thirty yards.  But I guess in places with a lot of deer, that's sometimes enough.  

 

It's illegal to shoot deer with shot in the UK (or a bullet less than 6mm in diameter, or .260").


Edited by mimo - 8/26/15 at 1:58am
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I would have thought that most people would use slugs, even from a shotgun..."buck shot" can't be effective (or humane) at much more than about thirty yards.  But I guess in places with a lot of deer, that's sometimes enough.  

It's illegal to shoot deer with shot in the UK (or a bullet less than 6mm in diameter, or .260").
It's been a long time since I hunted deer in Louisiana . If I remember correctly we used aught and slugs mostly , deer stands and dogs . The terrain down in the southern part of the state is so heavy that your chances of even seeing an animal at more than 30 yards is little to none . The area is called Cajun country due to its occupants being descendants of French Canadian immigrants. Truly a world of its own in the 1950s. The idea of sportsmanship was Not even a consideration . This was food gathering . I have no idea what it's like today prolly changed quite a bit
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I get you; makes some sense.  Also, I believe "Cajun" comes from "Acadian", after a bit of Canada once known as Acadia. But, yeah - sorry for the digression!

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IAlso, I believe "Cajun" comes from "Acadian
This is correct but to complicate matters further , my family spoke French, were of Louisiana French descent but we're not Cajuns
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Beginning my first AR "build" this week. Below is a rough outline of what I'm looking at.

Spike's Tactical Lower Kit (comes assembled - LPK, trigger, buffer, etc.)
BCM Upper Receiver Group (16", 1/7, Key Mod rail)
Spike's Tactical Nickel Boron BCG
Magpul CTR
BCM Charging Handle

Despite what the internet says, I don't think I need a cold hammer forged barrel. I suppose you could say the same thing about the Nickel BCG, but the benefits of the nickel boron seem more tangible than that of a CHF barrel, all things considered. No plans for optics yet but it won't be anything fancy at the moment.
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