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Gun Appreciation Thread

JustinW

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Originally Posted by Boognish
I'm not sure I want anything but a striker fired DA for this role.

Same for me.

I am still trying to find the ideal back-up mousegun for my non-dominant front pocket (my primary sidearm is IWB).
 

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Originally Posted by Boognish
Damn, now I'm thinking more and more about that little Sig. I need something for pocket carry, and I don't know which route to take. I traded off a P3AT a while back, and never really cared for it or its lack of quality. I'm debating the Micro Eagle, the Ruger LCP (or LC9 if I can pocket carry it), the Rohrbaugh R9, or the 238. I've handled the Micro Eagle, and slide bite is a problem for me, even compared to other mouse guns. The LCP looks and feel just like the P3AT, but it has Ruger's customer service behind it. The Rohrbaugh is ideal, but damn are they expensive and hard to find. The 238 looks like a contender, and even though I'm a big SA fan, I'm not sure I want anything but a striker fired DA for this role. What do you think Crane's? And do you intend on front or back pocket carry?
Well my usual carry mode is back pocket or weak side crossdraw. The safety is positive and there is a half cock block if it does manage to come off. The key as usual is getting the right holster so you don't have that issue. IMO if you're comfortable and competent with an SA then it's the way to go for obvious reasons. The trigger is fairly heavy but breaks clean. Having a set of real tritium combat sights is also a big big plus. The only potential issue with a pocket carry is hang ups on the hammer. That's more an issue with draw techniques which is easily overcome. In the hand it feels and points just like a 1911 which is a big thing to me since a 1911 is my preferred auto when I can get away with carrying a full size gun. I looked at the Kahr which is a very smooth striker fired DA and one helluva a small auto but the Sig is just a better gun for me in general.
 

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Originally Posted by HgaleK
The Sig
It's nice for sure. I chucked a few rounds down range and it's very accurate. I'm gathering up 200 rounds of hardball to break it in and 300 rounds of hollow points and buffalo bore solids for a function accuracy reliability test. I'm not expecting any issues but I always do a 500 round test fire before I carry anything.
 

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200 rounds of mixed ammo through the little Sig. No FTF, NFE, no misfires.

Oh and we are talking about getting an FFL again.
 

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Originally Posted by Crane's
200 rounds of mixed ammo through the little Sig. No FTF, NFE, no misfires.

Oh and we are talking about getting an FFL again.


You should...not enough true general stores around these days.
 

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Originally Posted by JustinW
I like the look of the new P290, though it is another plastic fantastic.

In my dad's ongoing quest to buy every 'pocket gun' known to man and never carry any of them, I had the, uh, privilege, of shooting one of these for 100 rounds or so.

Extremely long, extremely heavy revolver-like trigger (and I mean long and heavy for a revolver, not just a semi-auto) with a hard break. There is no reset, the trigger has to be let out all the way.

And the grip is so tiny it's hard to get a hold on, while the slide is big and heavy so balance is terrible as well.

I was not a fan. The Ruger LC9 was marginally better, but neither is all that much smaller than the Walther PPS, which is a legitimately good pistol.
 

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^ Thanks for the review - much appreciated!

I have SPF my G3 rifle and some of my old uniforms and other Aus militaria I didn't want or need, so I now have some guilt free (ie the Missus need not know about it) gun money coming my way!

Still looking at an RPK74 with Zeiss 74N or 1P79 Kashtan scope ontop. Should make a nice big brother to the AKSU74 'Krinkov'.

I'm also thinking about a new handgun - some sort of compact auto, though nothing is floating my boat right now.
 

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Excited! I have been looking for a Remington XR-100 in .223 for a while now, and just picked one at a local yesterday. I have a nice scope just waiting for it, too. It's funny; between my father and I we have shoulder-fired centerfires in calibers from .17 Rem to .458 Win Mag, but this will be our first .223 of any stripe whatsoever. Now I'm really looking for the semester to be over so I can go shoot this puppy. Will post real pics with the scope once mounted.
lgsil_xr100%5B1%5D.jpg
 

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Originally Posted by Boognish
You should...not enough true general stores around these days.
Yeah, it's not like guns weren't sold at the store for 80 years or so. If we get one again I'm going to do something like Buds. I'll also develop an awesome program for LE and active military guys. Right now I can get and sell everything but actual firearms. The amount of items I could put online is in the tens of thousands and is a daunting task in and of itself. I'll probably launch another commerce site just for the outdoors/gun stuff. I introduced 3 spare magazines into my Sig P238 break in ritual. Somewhere around 275 rounds the little Sig burbed and stove piped a case on ejection. Between the gun being absolutely filthy, shooting el cheapo blazer ammo and a new magazine I'm not overly concerned. I'm 325 rounds into my 500 round test with one FTE. Sig Sauer P238 by DYSong Photography, on Flickr Sig Sauer P238a by DYSong Photography, on Flickr
 

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Originally Posted by Crane's
Yeah, it's not like guns weren't sold at the store for 80 years or so. If we get one again I'm going to do something like Buds. I'll also develop an awesome program for LE and active military guys. Right now I can get and sell everything but actual firearms. The amount of items I could put online is in the tens of thousands and is a daunting task in and of itself. I'll probably launch another commerce site just for the outdoors/gun stuff.

I introduced 3 spare magazines into my Sig P238 break in ritual. Somewhere around 275 rounds the little Sig burbed and stove piped a case on ejection. Between the gun being absolutely filthy, shooting el cheapo blazer ammo and a new magazine I'm not overly concerned. I'm 325 rounds into my 500 round test with one FTE.


Sig Sauer P238 by DYSong Photography, on Flickr


Sig Sauer P238a by DYSong Photography, on Flickr


Good to know...I'll be looking at an Equinox P238 next week. What holster do you have in mind, and how positively does the safety engage?
 

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Originally Posted by A Harris
This thread needs some classics:



S Prefix 29-2 44 Mag, Circa 1966:

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Model 57 no dash, 41 Magnum:

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5 Screw 1955 Target (Pre-25) 45 ACP:

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wow! vintage S&W N frames are still my fav
 

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Originally Posted by Huntsman
Excited! I have been looking for a Remington XR-100 in .223 for a while now, and just picked one at a local yesterday. I have a nice scope just waiting for it, too.

It's funny; between my father and I we have shoulder-fired centerfires in calibers from .17 Rem to .458 Win Mag, but this will be our first .223 of any stripe whatsoever. Now I'm really looking for the semester to be over so I can go shoot this puppy. Will post real pics with the scope once mounted.


lgsil_xr100%5B1%5D.jpg


Nice, let us know how it shoots. I have a 700 VLS in .223 that I love, it will group into about 3/8" at 100yds when I'm holding it steady.
 

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Originally Posted by Boognish
Good to know...I'll be looking at an Equinox P238 next week. What holster do you have in mind, and how positively does the safety engage?
I'm looking at the Rosen 5JR, ARG and TRV. I'll probably go with the ARG and pick one of the others down the road. I'll also be ordering the matching mag carrier. I might splurge and have both trimmed in sharkskin. The safety is rock solid and positive. Sig uses a ball detent system that's IMO one of the best SAO safety systems around. It also has the traditional half cock hammer block and incorporates a firing pin block as well. Sig advises against a cocked and locked pocket carry. Beyond the obvious safety concern I can see where this could lead to an oh **** first shot failure. It appears that Sig recommends condition 3 when pocket carrying. I suppose with enough practice you could deploy and fire the pistol quickly. The obvious problem as you well know is 99% of the population won't practice enough to be proficient. IMO this is a semi advanced/advanced skill so you know how that goes as well. In any case I do believe with the right rigid leather pocket holster condition one carry in the pocket is doable. I completed my 500 round test and here's the result. I cleaned the gun when I first got it and used the grease that's supplied to lube the moving parts. The gun ships dry so go through the routine to avoid aluminum steel galling on the rails. I did not clean the gun for the entire test. Toward the tail end of the test I had several FTF/FTE issues. I'm talking about between rounds 480 and 500. I was using WW el cheapo target loads. I attribute most of the problem to that huge meplat on the end of the slug. It seems that the meplat is just so that on recoil it rams into the face of the mag and decelerates the feed/cants the round enough to cause issues. Keep that in mind if you use the Buffalo Bore solids. They have a similar meplat and could become problematic. I used Remington target and hollow point ammo, WW target ammo, CCI blazers, Hornady Critical Defense, Several variations of Corbon including the DXP, BB +P Hollow points. All of the defense loads had no issues. I mixed ammo in the mags and had no issues. The only issues occurred after 250 rounds while using the the cheap dirt clod killers (WW target, blazers). My gun shipped with an 8 rear site and a 6 front site. It shoots a bit high but I prefer this. It's sighted in for the Hornady Critical Defense load but everything I shot through it hits very close to the same POA. Mine's not picky and I like that for obvious reasons. Accuracy wise it's a mini target pistol. Off hand 4 inch groups at 25 yards is very doable. I shot mine out to 100 yards and that's the range it seems to zero out at. Paper plates can be hit with regularity but you really have to do your part to make it happen. In that aspect the gun is very unforgiving. You have to your part to make it all work well. It's a solid gun and one I would highly recommend to an intermediate/advanced shooter for CCW. IMO it is not a gun for a beginning shooter who intends to carry it concealed.
 

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