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post #2956 of 3111
Well, I'm not a virgin anymore. Fired a gun for the first time ever yesterday. 2 of them, in fact.

Shot 100 rounds through my Colt M4. I was happy enough just to hit anywhere on the target. My buddy told me it wasn't a bad first outing, but who knows. Good just to not feel as scared of the thing.

I wanted to shoot my 9mm Shield but didn't have any ammo, so I shot his .45 handgun, not sure what it was, I think a S&W of some sort.
post #2957 of 3111
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

Just curious, why do you carry all the time? The nature of the question is along the lines of "do you work in a pawn shop or in a tough area?", not philosophical.

Or do you just like to have a gun with you at all times? I'll prob get a license at some point, but can't imagine lugging a hunk of metal around unless I was going somewhere very unfamiliar (and not typically in dress shirt and pants).

I'll start off by saying I do not carry often just because it's a PITA (which is why I'm going to get a better pocket gun than my current Kel Tec).

So why carry all the time? Well, I have an umbrella in my vehicle. I do this because if I wait for it to rain, before assuring I have access to an umbrella, I'm going to get wet. I have life insurance, even though I do not think I'm currently terminal, as I really do not know when I'm going to die and if I wait until I know, it will either be too late or I'll be uninsurable.
post #2958 of 3111
As my good friend Burt Gummer would say, when you need it and don't have it you sing a different tune. Basically you don't know where, when or even if some kind of trouble will find you.
post #2959 of 3111
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

While all of those things are true, it's not like the situations are the same.

There might be a ~30% chance of rain every day, depending on where you live. The chance of you needing to use a gun is probably 0.001%-0.00001%, based on the descriptions of your life that you provide. Or a better description might be "gun might be relevant" than "you'll need."

Life insurance is a financial product...

I could carry an RPG in case I needed to take out a lightly armored vehicle, and indeed it would be better to have the RPG and not need it than not have it and need it. You get my drift.

The annoyance cost would have to be unbelievably low for me to lug something around that I'd maybe need on one out of one million days.

If I was carrying diamonds around or in a TX border town, different story.

For background, I am not anti-gun. Sincere questions based on the practicality aspect (was wondering if the poster had unusual situations).

You have yourself a good day.
post #2960 of 3111
If my employer didn't ban guns, I would consider carrying more often. I've thought about just keeping one in my car.
post #2961 of 3111
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

While all of those things are true, it's not like the situations are the same.

There might be a ~30% chance of rain every day, depending on where you live. The chance of you needing to use a gun is probably 0.001%-0.00001%,

Yes, and if I'm make the wrong decision there, I get wet. If I make the wrong decision in the other scenario, I could end up seriously injured or dead. Your analysis does not factor in the consequences. Being dead or gravely injured is much worse than getting wet. Yes, the chances that I will need it are small, but I find the minor inconvenience more than worth it.
post #2962 of 3111
Fair enough... the value judgment is personal one.
post #2963 of 3111

It really is down to personal circumstances, I think.

 

I live in San Francisco. It's legally impossible for me to go strapped unless I get a TRO sworn out against someone. In New York I doubt I would even have that resort.

 

And so long as I live here, I don't really have a problem with this.

 

In the confines of a city, especially where the legal environment essentially dictates that I can't use deadly force outside my own home unless my assailant is literally on top on me, a firearm may actually be counterproductive compared to a knife or legal impact weapon (metal flashlight, pen, etc.).

 

For another good option with which I've elicited hearty laughs from local cops, see here, at the bottom of the page: http://fosterimpactdevices.com/

 

The one thing I carry everyday that makes a great impact device is this: http://www.countycomm.com/stainlesspen.html

 

Moreover, in NYC it's within the law to carry a fixed blade on your person so long as the blade is under 4 inches and you keep it concealed. Even with a recent crackdown on locking folders the small fixed blade loophole still exists.  I don't think I'd need it most of the time, but when I go there a La Griffe is always in the checked bag or in summer, fedexed to the hotel ahead of me.

 

Some other places? Yeah, I'd go strapped. Cross Country Drive? Get an AZ Permit.

post #2964 of 3111
Is the idea that you hit someone with that pen?
post #2965 of 3111
You bring up some good points and options Hayward. People seem to underestimate the value of small impact weapons. People might laugh at the coin sap. That is until they got smacked upside the head with it. The same goes with a heavy metal pen. I carry one made by Surefire. It would make for a good yawara stick if needed. Here in MO our CCW permit laws allow one to carry a good old blackjack which is my small impact weapon of choice. Anywhere else or in places in MO where CCW is prohibited my good old pen is with me.

I always have a knife on me unless I'm going somewhere where it's strictly prohibited.

Anyway, even if they outlaw everything in an area there's always things all over the place that can be put to good use as an improvised weapon if need be.
post #2966 of 3111
Carrying a knife is always a good thing. It comes in handy more times than not. The whole to carry or not to carry and states laws are truly getting out of hand. Call me crazy but I see a huge division with in the masses to where people and business are going to start moving to wear they feel safe and comfortable. It will be a sad day when the anti- gun nut jobs all live by themselves and wonder why crime in the area is so and and now is willing to protect them.
post #2967 of 3111
Just got this TLR-1 light for my nightstand gun. DeSantis holster.

AppleMark
post #2968 of 3111
Been carrying a Taurus "Slim 9" (709). Just ordered a Rohrbaugh R9. from one extreme to the other with respect to price. I was actually happy with the Taurus but I question its long-term reliability
post #2969 of 3111
Do those of you who wear prescription glasses have shooting-specific glasses for the range? Covers that fit over your regular glasses? Just wear your regular glasses?

My lenses are trivex so they're impact resistant, but I'm not sure if I should be getting something with better coverage.
post #2970 of 3111
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Originally Posted by dcg View Post

Do those of you who wear prescription glasses have shooting-specific glasses for the range? Covers that fit over your regular glasses? Just wear your regular glasses?

My lenses are trivex so they're impact resistant, but I'm not sure if I should be getting something with better coverage.

Outdoor I just wear my normal prescription sunglasses (Ray Bans) but inside either wear contacts with clear protective paintball glasses or my prescription glasses with clear goggles over top as brass tends to bounce around like crazy. Same reason I keep shirts buttoned up tight inside (hot brass down the shirt sucks).

Heading to the range tomorrow morning. First time in about seven weeks. Mrs. Piob and I are taking mental health days and we'll hit the range at 7:30 and spend a few hours. Really relaxing at an outdoor range.
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