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My fall buy. Woodlands/Oak St Bootmakers chukka. Shown here with a rough out 1911 rig someone custom ordered.
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Mauro, thanks for the advice. I'm pretty pumped up to try this. Thanks Bankes and Cranes. This will all help.
Edited by i10casual - 9/26/13 at 11:57pm
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Took off Friday to spend shooting with my father -- four years of grad school has not allowed much time for us to hang out. We went, basically, just to plink -- since neither of us had shot much of late there was little point in shooting for score -- thus we both brought some interesting things. We had the range totally to ourselves for the whole day, which was awesome.


For a little side by side centerfire work, my father's beautiful, beautiful Remington 700 Varmint with a Unertl Ultra Varmint scope, while I shot my relatively new XR-100.





Then we 'plinked' a little with the might AR-50. I took a video (not posted) from a little to the sunny side when my father touched off a round. Because I was (knowingly) in the blast cone from the muzzle brake, it was pretty intense. The brake is an amazing device that tames the 13,000 ft-lbs muzzle energy cartridge into something far, far more manageable than a comparatively puny 5,000 ft.-lb.458 Winchester Magnum (which I have shot four rounds with and never want to shoot again).




We shot some other fairly vanilla things, and moved to pistols. I only brought one, my AMT Automag in .22 Magnum Rimfire, which is an odd chambering for a semiauto pistol, and my father brought a few really unusual old high performance 'revolvers' -- I think only Jan would recognize them off-the-cuff: the Smith & Wesson .22 Jet (an odd .357 necked down to .22), and the Ruger Hawkeye chambered in .256 Winchester Magnum -- it has a weird breech block instead of the cylinder, and the cartridge seats directly in the barrel.







And then to round things out, a few shots through what must be the ultimate 'fun gun' to shoot, the incredible Thomson Submachinegun, Model of 1928 (legally registered of course). Really, there is nothing like it.




Incidentally, on the way to the range, I wanted to stop at a large sporting goods store to pick up some NRA 100 yd match targets. These are very standard competition targets that I expected any shooting store would have and that this store used to have. But they had none and didn't stock them. All they had were all sorts of 'zombie' targets, targets with decaying moose (I swear), terrorist targets and other such nonsense. It really frustrated me and, I thought, was emblematic of a kind of stupidity that has crept into the shooting sports -- yes, we all plink and have fun from time to time, but there is also something to be said for serious sportshooting also, conducted with care, responsibility and respect. And there's something to be said for the sport to not look like a sideshow, which, to go into one of these stores, is what it seems like. I would have been embarrassed to take a non-shooting friend whom I was trying to convince of the general sobriety of the shooting sports.


~ H

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I recognize those old revolvers and cartridges. I had a 22 Jet Smith with a factory 22 Mag cylinder. Fun gun and really loud. Groundhogs hated it. I shot a Hawkeye. They are different but fun as well. I had a Ruger SA in 357 Maximum. That was a weird one. Reloading for it was not fun way back when. It was temperature sensitive like no tomorrow. From what I hear these days that's not much of a problem thanks to new powders. Jan isn't the only old wheel gun guy running around here.

You do know Douglas that a nice little form was filled out on you and sent off to DHS? It happens with multiple gun purchases, in particular handguns. Have no fear though. I'm a founding member of that club. LOL!
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Speaking of old odd and weird revolvers. Today I picked up a Colt SAA that was made in 1898. The gun was converted to 22 rim fire by fitting sleeves to the cylinder, modifying the firing pin, and fitting a 22 cal barrel to it. The gun was also fitted with a set of very nice Parker Hale fully adjustable sites. The trigger has been worked over and a set of over sized hand checkered walnut grips have been added as well. The frame flame hardening is intact with no rust at all. It's worn but other than that it's pretty clean given it's over 110 years old. Since the serial numbers don't match on the parts it's my guess someone put together a gun from parts way back before WW2 and had a smith make a 22 target pistol out of it.

The gun is a tack driver.

JAN! This is the interesting part. The barrel is marked some letter. Pearsall and after that another set of five characters. WC Pearsall was a Tennessee gunsmith who died in 1910. There's a chance that he or one of his children were the ones who did the conversion.

I'll clean it up and post pics in a day or two.
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^Interesting about that .22 RF conversion. We tend to forget how many gunsmiths there were doing weird and wonderful things to Colt Single Action Armies, especially in the interwar years. Of course, much of my familiarity with them (and yours, too, I'm sure) comes from my old friend Elmer Keith's book Sixguns: Christy's, J.D. O'Meara, Neal Houchins, Sedgley (best known for their sporterized 1903 Springfields), "Pop" Eimer and King*, just to name some that come to mind. I am afraid I have never heard of Pearsall before.

*This firm is not to be confused with the later King's Gun Works, based in Los Angeles and later Glendale. I think the full name of the older firm was King Gun Sight Company, and I am pretty sure they were based in San Francisco, an unlikely spot for a custom gunsmithing house these days! Although the later King's Gun Works, which existed from 1949 until it folded a few years back, is best known for their 1911 work--they and Armand Swenson were the real pioneers of "combat customizing"--they also did some very fine customizing on the Colt Single Action Army and other SAs. They did a fair amount of this work for Hank Williams, Jr. It was a sad day for the dying gun culture of Southern California when Bill Capone decided to shut down King's. I imagine a lot of younger fellows don't realize what a vibrant epicenter of the gun culture Southern California was until the past couple of decades.

I suppose my friend Hamilton Bowen might well be the foremost figure doing that kind of single action work these days. I thought his book on revolver customizing was a masterpiece.
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Crane's, I look forward to the photos.
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1898 Colt SAA that was converted to a 22 LR target pistol.

So here it is. I knew it was a "Colt SAA" when I first saw it across the room. Of course we all know just because it looks like something doesn't mean it's the real deal. Upon further examination it was pretty obvious. The first pic pretty much gives it away. Yep those patent numbers are right and hey that's the Colt horse. The flame hardening is pretty much intact which is pretty cool since the thing is 115 years old.

Serial number 175460. According to Colt's records that means it was made in 1898. Given the low serial number for that year I would say it was made in the 3rd week or so of January 1898.

Well it's not chambered in 45 or 41 Colt that's for sure.

Field stripped showing how the cylinder was sleeved for 22 Long Rifle. Judging by the sleeve dimensions I'm fairly sure the cylinder was originally chambered in 45 Colt. Somebody spent some time modifying this cylinder that's for sure. The chambers are dimensionally correct for 22LR and are throated properly as well.

The more I looked this gun over the more interesting things became. Here's a shot of another modification. Instead of the firing pin being on the hammer like it's supposed to be this gun has a rebounding firing pin that was installed in the frame. The hammer was plugged so you don't have this big hole in it. Now don't think because it has this that it's safe to carry it with a round under the hammer. It isn't. With the hammer down the pin will rest on a live cartridge and if you drop it just might go bang.

Just a side view shot. Holster worn and a bit beat up but hey there's no rust to speak of. This was somebody's pride and joy IMO.

A fully adjustable rear sight was fitted and installed along the top strap. Again this took some serious machining as well. Whoever did this modification went so far as to hand cut the rear blade to match the width of the front sight.

Detail shot of the Parker Hale front sight.

Here's a shot of the Pearsall barrel markings. I can make out Pearsall but the rest of it I'm not sure about.

Left side shot showing the overall condition of the gun. Those are some nice hand cut oversized target grips by the way.

Right side shot. I'm not sure why a short screw was used on the gun. It could be nothing more than someone lost a screw and replaced it with one that just worked. That would be my guess. Now there's another thing about this gun that bears mention. The single action trigger pull is one pound. I have no idea how that was done since the lock time is very quick and it doesn't light strike. It could be done by changing the trigger group geometry I suppose.

I spent half my life in a machine shop and the custom work that was done to this gun is extraordinary. The fit, finish and attention to detail is the work of someone who really knew and understood what they were doing. Someone somewhere in the last 115 years paid a lot of money to turn this old Colt into one helluva a target pistol.

Now it's mine and it's not for sale. LOL!
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^The elongated grip panels that cover the bottom of the grip frame are an interesting feature. On first look, I thought maybe somebody had fitted an 1860 Army grip frame, which was sometimes done to accommodate large male hands.

Any idea what the purpose of that hole or indentation in the cylinder face between the chambers is?
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

^The elongated grip panels that cover the bottom of the grip frame are an interesting feature. On first look, I thought maybe somebody had fitted an 1860 Army grip frame, which was sometimes done to accommodate large male hands.

Any idea what the purpose of that hole or indentation in the cylinder face between the chambers is?

Actually yes I do. There are three of them and they are tapped. That tells me that the cylinder was setup in a jig and then bored with a milling machine and a dividing head. Whoever did this was making a regular habit of it.
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Shooter's box
Heads up on a nice wood storage box. Another forum member posted this link on a thread here. Looking through them I came across this gun supply chest.
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Newest member of the family







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The sights look nice. How does it shoot?
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Trigger isn't as nice as my GLOCK19, but it's a straight shooter without any FTE/FTF.

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I have an M&P9 also, and I'm also not the biggest fan of the trigger. I think I'm going to look into the Apex stuff for the gun and see if that helps. But otherwise it felt more sturdy in my hand than any of its competitors.
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