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post #2446 of 3111
If you want a "no frills" 1911, try the Springfield GI model. Kimber has always struck me as frilly
post #2447 of 3111
You said "no Frills" and then ask about a Kimber Custom. That's funny, you're a pistol!

Seriously, just buy a Colt. After years of production missteps they now are on the right track and put out a good line.
post #2448 of 3111
The custom ii is their entry level model
post #2449 of 3111

I think the implication is that Kimber doesn't make a "no frills" model.  Are you looking for a Kimber specifically or a just a 1911?

post #2450 of 3111
Generally unless you're looking to buy the high end guns such as from Nighthawk or Ed Brown, your choices are limited to Colt and Springfield. Kimber and Para are known for poor quality control. Auto - Ordnance also has a bad rep, but quality may have gone up when Kahr took over.
post #2451 of 3111
thanks - I'll check them out. will try to hit the range this week and see what they have to try. I'm trying to spend <1k
post #2452 of 3111
I would go with the Springfield milspecs. You can always work your way up from its basic configuration with a good smith. If it were me, Id just leave it the way it is.
post #2453 of 3111

+1 for Springfield milspec

post #2454 of 3111
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

I would go with the Springfield milspecs. You can always work your way up from its basic configuration with a good smith. If it were me, Id just leave it the way it is.

Me too.
post #2455 of 3111
I don't see the ammunition situation getting much better until president Obama is out of office. I suppose at some point people will have their fill, even the hoarders, but expecting normal prices or fully stocked shelves in the next couple of years is a pipe dream, I think. I hope I am wrong.
post #2456 of 3111

I predict markets will normalize once this wave of gun legislation is over.  I suspect the buying frenzy is being fueled by uncertainty over future regulations.  I have friends and associates of mine (on the east coast) who think if they don't buy this (gun, magazine, ammunition, etc.) right now they'll never be able to buy it in the future.  Hence, they are willing to pay just about any price to get it. 

post #2457 of 3111
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

I predict markets will normalize once this wave of gun legislation is over.  I suspect the buying frenzy is being fueled by uncertainty over future regulations.  I have friends and associates of mine (on the east coast) who think if they don't buy this (gun, magazine, ammunition, etc.) right now they'll never be able to buy it in the future.  Hence, they are willing to pay just about any price to get it. 

We have bit of a regional panic wave going in CA right now, because the Legislature here is on a gun control tear. Current state law proposals include one that would ban virtually all semi-automatic long guns. Another one would broaden the definition of prohibited short-barreled shotguns to include all non-shoulder-fired firearms capable of firing one or more projectiles through either a smooth or rifled bore (thus when read literally, banning all handguns).

The City of LA is now proposing an ordinance to prohibit the possession of 10+ round magazines, even those that were lawfully owned prior to the passage of the state law limiting magazine capacity.
post #2458 of 3111
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

Generally unless you're looking to buy the high end guns such as from Nighthawk or Ed Brown, your choices are limited to Colt and Springfield. Kimber and Para are known for poor quality control. Auto - Ordnance also has a bad rep, but quality may have gone up when Kahr took over.

this. Ive had horrible experience with kimber. But my colt 70 series was flawless. fantastic pistol. If not that, the springfield GI is a damn good piece as well...basic, park finish, and sturdy.
post #2459 of 3111
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

I predict markets will normalize once this wave of gun legislation is over.  I suspect the buying frenzy is being fueled by uncertainty over future regulations.  I have friends and associates of mine (on the east coast) who think if they don't buy this (gun, magazine, ammunition, etc.) right now they'll never be able to buy it in the future.  Hence, they are willing to pay just about any price to get it. 

I don't see this wave of legislation ending under Obama. He won't stop pushing for it until he gets an assault weapons ban, which he won't, but this means he'll try until he's out of office. I suspect that the next liberal President will follow in his footsteps. Under Obama, we've seen an unprecedented attempt to ostracize gun owners. This will be a permanent part of their platform, in a way we've never seen before. I'm typically optimistic about this type of thing, but I really don't see prices or supplies changing anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong.
post #2460 of 3111
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

I don't see this wave of legislation ending under Obama. He won't stop pushing for it until he gets an assault weapons ban, which he won't, but this means he'll try until he's out of office. I suspect that the next liberal President will follow in his footsteps. Under Obama, we've seen an unprecedented attempt to ostracize gun owners. This will be a permanent part of their platform, in a way we've never seen before. I'm typically optimistic about this type of thing, but I really don't see prices or supplies changing anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong.

I don't see Obama pushing a relentless gun control agenda for the rest of his term. I think he would have preferred to have ignored the whole issue of gun control (as he did throughout his first term) had it not been for the absolute horror of the Newtown massacre. If something as comparatively innocuous and uncontroversial as background checks couldn't get through Congress, how is he going to accomplish anything else unless he should get solid Democratic majorities in both houses after the 2014 elections, which seems very unlikely?

The Democrats did not push gun control in the past three national elections because they realize that it is a losing issue for them.

My prediction is that the panic buying will burn itself out within a few months.

Here in California, one-party state that it now is, the situation is very different: I rather feel like a Coptic Christian in contemporary Egypt!
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