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From Regular to Organic: noticeable changes?

post #1 of 15
8/4/07 at 7:03pm
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The price difference has generally disinclined me from buying organic fruit and vegetables over regular stuff. However I have bought organic eggs consistently over the last three years and am now wondering whether I would/will see any health benefits if I bought/buy organic fruit and vegetables. I'm thinking of differences in my skin and general vitality although I'm sure the possibility of deeper benefits exits. Any advice or experiences with a similar change yourself?
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post #2 of 15
8/4/07 at 7:22pm
Organic bread will be healthier because it won't have high fructose corn syrup or processed wheat and soy. Other than that, the label "Organic" is really a nod to nature rather than a nod to health. "Organic" labeled products need to meet requirements that show production is environmentally sound. Sometimes these requirements coincide with health benefits, often they don't. That said, if the price difference is negligible, I always buy organic.

You WILL see improvements if you switch to beef from grass-fed cattle, eggs from free-range chickens, and fish from wild sources. These are always higher in omega-3 fatty acids and more akin to our natural diet.
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post #3 of 15
8/4/07 at 7:29pm
I enjoy organic coffee. Organic cigarettes give me headaches though, so I tend to stay away from them.
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post #4 of 15
8/4/07 at 8:45pm
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You WILL see improvements if you switch to beef from grass-fed cattle, eggs from free-range chickens, and fish from wild sources. These are always higher in omega-3 fatty acids and more akin to our natural diet.
+1 Note that free-range chicken is usually healthier than organic: to be certified organic eggs, the chicken must only be fed organic feed, which is easiest to control with pellets. I want my chickens fed on veggie scraps and eating all the bugs they can catch. Buying local is healthier than organic because the nutrients in the food haven't had as much time to break down or the food doesn't need to be harvested unripe and artificially ripened. Organic is just greenwashing.
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post #5 of 15
8/5/07 at 12:33am
Organic carrots absolutely taste better than their doppelgangers.
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post #6 of 15
8/6/07 at 3:39pm
Don't forget the fewer pesticides.
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post #7 of 15
8/6/07 at 10:19pm
I have noticed that organic milk tends to keep longer. Some fruits/vegetables retain more pesticides than others. I have heard that berries retain the most pesticides, so I always buy organic berries when I can.

By the way, what do people think of SunMilk?



Nice packaging, no?
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post #8 of 15
8/7/07 at 12:02am
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but any chicken egg sold in the US can be sold as a free range chicken egg. A chicken can be crammed in to a cubic foot with twelve other chickens in a basement and its eggs are sellable as free range. +1 on the grassfed beef issue.
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post #9 of 15
8/7/07 at 3:24am
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I have noticed that organic milk tends to keep longer.
Organic vegetables seem to go bad in a completely different way. (Not better, just different.) I think it might have to do with smaller-scale harvesting processes?
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Some fruits/vegetables retain more pesticides than others. I have heard that berries retain the most pesticides, so I always buy organic berries when I can.
Yeah, there are a few things where it's important. This site has a very large list, but it links to some smaller ones at the bottom: http://www.deliciousorganics.com/Con...optobuyorg.htm I once saw a wallet card with a pesticide priority list but didn't pick it up for some reason.
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post #10 of 15
8/7/07 at 5:35am
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Organic carrots absolutely taste better than their doppelgangers.

There is a significant difference between the varieties of carrots which are grown for shape and disease resistance and those grown for taste. In particular, a lot of taste is given up for resistance to carrot root fly.

The most usual situation is that a shop stocks:

(a) Cheap un-organic carrots which are of the former variety and taste of water

(b) Expensive carrots which are of the latter and taste of carrot

In other words, don't assume it's necessarily the "organic" making the difference.

My father's carrots from the garden taste as nice as supermarket organic, and he sprays them to hell and back.

Now the benefits to the land/environment are, of course, a separate question.
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post #11 of 15
8/7/07 at 10:43am
Taking in only organic products will give you superhuman powers, try it and see.
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post #12 of 15
8/7/07 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Reggs View Post
I have noticed that organic milk tends to keep longer. Some fruits/vegetables retain more pesticides than others. I have heard that berries retain the most pesticides, so I always buy organic berries when I can.
Nice packaging, no?

Organic milk tends to come from afar and hence is usually supper-homogenized and because of that lasts longer
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post #13 of 15
8/7/07 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant View Post
Don't forget the fewer pesticides.

And more shit all over your food.

I know organic farmers who hardly eat organic food...it's all marketing.
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post #14 of 15
8/7/07 at 8:03pm
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4019
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post #15 of 15
8/7/07 at 11:31pm
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Originally Posted by juniper View Post
There is a significant difference between the varieties of carrots which are grown for shape and disease resistance and those grown for taste. In particular, a lot of taste is given up for resistance to carrot root fly.

The most usual situation is that a shop stocks:

(a) Cheap un-organic carrots which are of the former variety and taste of water

(b) Expensive carrots which are of the latter and taste of carrot

In other words, don't assume it's necessarily the "organic" making the difference.

My father's carrots from the garden taste as nice as supermarket organic, and he sprays them to hell and back.

Now the benefits to the land/environment are, of course, a separate question.

Interesting, thank you! All the same, since the only carrot-like carrots I can buy (find) are organic, that's how I'll roll.

Regards,
Huntsman
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