Originally Posted by ThunderMarch
You know, I'd second that.
I think that StyFo is a lot of fun. But more than that, it is also a community that welcomes and encourages experts and shoemakers / tailors / industry experts, to actually come in and contribute and discuss ideas.
And to educate.
I owe a lot of what I know or have learnt, to many of the makers who have contributed here; DW, Jmac, shoefan, Nicholas.I mostly feel like a leech, but am very grateful to have expert opinions and input, that help to elevate the level of disccusion to another level, beyond just patting each other on the back, that does tend to happen quite a bit on SF.
No need to feel like a leech. I can't speak for anyone else but I come here to share and educate (as off-putting and presumptuous as that may be to those who are beyond learning). I am at the end of my career and probably closing in on the end of my life. I want to make a difference in the way shoes and the Trade and the Traditions are viewed. We've forgotten so much. And come to expect so little. For some people this is all news to them.
When I was coming up, the Traditional approach to learning was to sit at the master's feet. Maybe not literally but metaphorically. And it's a good system because it expects the student to suppress his own ego (temporarily) and listen
. If a student wants to argue, he's wasting everyone's time including his own, simply because no one can learn when their own mouth is flapping. Or when they are opposing what is being taught.
I learned that way. I sat at my master's feet...sometimes literally. And when I didn't agree with something my mentor said, I either STFU or I gently asked for a further explanation. And then
I STFU. I did that out off respect and, more importantly, because it was contrary to all hope of learning. It was never...nor should it have been...a subject for dispute.
That said, every teacher...even if he's being paid...does it because he wants
to share. Wants to give. It is very like opening a vein. So maybe blood is
involved but it's all voluntary.
Just deal with it with respect--respect for the knowledge itself, if nothing else. And respect the teacher just because he or she is giving you something of himself--of his time, of his energy--it's a gift, maybe even of infinite value.
--Edited by DWFII - 5/8/16 at 8:10am