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post #46 of 56
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Not at all, you must prove that he had talent; the burden of proof is on you. I already presented my evidence, his art works which are nowhere the complexity or require the same skill that a Caravaggio would require. Now, show me a work by Rothko that has the same complexity and requires the same skill.

Jon.

No, there's no burden on me at all because I'm not making any such contention. Pointing out that you've made assertions that lack any evidentiary basis is not the same thing as affirmatively contending the contrapositive of your statement.
In any event, your logic is faulty. The fact that someone who made a conscious, intellectually consistent decision to turn away from the more "complex" works of the past did not produce the type of work he deliberately eschewed is not probative of his ability or inability to produce such work. When your premise doesn't lead to your conclusion, the putative validity of your premise is irrelevant.
post #47 of 56
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
I think minimalist art is nice for decorating a modern interior but that's about it. I don't really regard it as art.
You just called it art.

This whole debate about whether some art is art or not is so 1928
post #48 of 56
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post
No, there's no burden on me at all because I'm not making any such contention. Pointing out that you've made assertions that lack any evidentiary basis is not the same thing as affirmatively contending the contrapositive of your statement.
In any event, your logic is faulty. The fact that someone who made a conscious, intellectually consistent decision to turn away from the more "complex" works of the past did not produce the type of work he deliberately eschewed is not probative of his ability or inability to produce such work. When your premise doesn't lead to your conclusion, the putative validity of your premise is irrelevant.

I can only go by his artworks, none of which show a complexity or skill (not mutually inclusive, btw) to compare to Caravaggio. Thus, unless you have an artwork by Rothko to prove otherwise, I'm going to keep my position.

Jon.
post #49 of 56
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
You just called it art. This whole debate about whether some is art or not is so 1928



Jon.
post #50 of 56
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Originally Posted by imageWIS View Post
I can only go by his artworks, none of which show a complexity or skill (not mutually inclusive, btw) to compare to Caravaggio. Thus, unless you have an artwork by Rothko to prove otherwise, I'm going to keep my position.

Jon.

Party on, dude. I have no investment in getting you to change your position.
post #51 of 56
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post
Party on, dude. I have no investment in getting you to change your position.

Nor I yours. Let's be honest: there is no way to test either of our theories, for Rothko is dead.

Jon.
post #52 of 56
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Originally Posted by imageWIS View Post
Rothko is dead.
Can you prove that?
post #53 of 56
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
Can you prove that?

No living artist has paintings that command that kind of price at the auction house.

Jon.
post #54 of 56
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Originally Posted by imageWIS View Post
Can a chair be Bauhaus?

Jon.
There are many.

!luc
post #55 of 56
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Originally Posted by Luc-Emmanuel View Post
There are many.

!luc

Indeed there are, so why can't a car be Bauhaus as well?

Jon.
post #56 of 56
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Indeed there are, so why can't a car be Bauhaus as well?

Jon.

I would think that a chair being designed at the Bauhaus gives it an edge over a car being designed decades after the Bauhaus ceased to exist. Influence, however, works.
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