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I thought Chasing Amy was a great film....
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I thought Chasing Amy was a great film....

It was ok, probably Kevin Smith's best film (I'm not really a fan). But does it belong on a list of "influential and classic films"? Not really. Did it bring anything new to the table or influence modern film in any way? Meh.

I'd just rather see something truly visionary like Visitor Q, which while not necessarily "influential" is most definitely "visionary" and pushes the boundaries of morality, reality, and taste to the breaking point (and beyond), while retaining its poignancy and message.
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Jazz is actually the perfect analogy. If you get Thelonious Monk, if you get Charles Mingus, you probably get Jackson Pollock too.

Actually, I had been thinking Ornette Coleman, but I agree.
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Actually, I had been thinking Ornette Coleman, but I agree.
Yes, better example, thank you.
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One of the greatest movies ever made, and don't you forget it!

One of the most entertaining, greatest pieces of social satire ever put to film, and I'll buy that for a dollar. Verhoeven really hit the mark here. I wish he had been as up to par on Starship Troopers (though, if memory serves, you liked that one a lot more than I did).
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Actually, I had been thinking Ornette Coleman, but I agree.

Even as a jazz lover I don't particularly like Ornette so maybe that explains it.
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TS: Have you ever played Beat Takeshi's Takeshi No Chousenjou for the NES?
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TS: Have you ever played Beat Takeshi's Takeshi No Chousenjou for the NES?

Holy crap. Never even seen/heard of that before. NOW I finally have a reason to learn Japanese!
post #249 of 254
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One of the most entertaining, greatest pieces of social satire ever put to film, and I'll buy that for a dollar. Verhoeven really hit the mark here. I wish he had been as up to par on Starship Troopers (though, if memory serves, you liked that one a lot more than I did).
I will be the first to admit that 'Troopers isn't as great a movie as Robocop. Although, I guess you just did it, so ... let me be the second to admit that... blah blah blah.
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"a painting done by a high school student or Jackson Pollock are both art where a beautifully constructed cabinet, car or watch are not." Talk about the "retardedness" of some of the comments. Of course a beautifully constructed cabinet, car or watch is art. It takes a high level of skill, training, creativity (sometimes) and can be aesthetically pleasing. That's what art is. The argument that art is determined by the artist is, to me, ridiculous. The fact that most people find the work of Pollock and most high school kids  crap is entirely the point. Pollock was a hack with no talent. I can drop some acid, throw a can of spaghettios against the wall, and call it art all day.  It may even hold some profound, deeper meaning for me and I can complain that the rest of the world just doesn't "get it", but that doesn't make it art.

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"a painting done by a high school student or Jackson Pollock are both art where a beautifully constructed cabinet, car or watch are not." Talk about the "retardedness" of some of the comments. Of course a beautifully constructed cabinet, car or watch is art. It takes a high level of skill, training, creativity (sometimes) and can be aesthetically pleasing. That's what art is. The argument that art is determined by the artist is, to me, ridiculous. The fact that most people find the work of Pollock and most high school kids  crap is entirely the point. Pollock was a hack with no talent. I can drop some acid, throw a can of spaghettios against the wall, and call it art all day.  It may even hold some profound, deeper meaning for me and I can complain that the rest of the world just doesn't "get it", but that doesn't make it art.

Good thing you had an unimpeachable, externally developed definition to work with rather than just relying on circular bootstrapping!
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Good thing you had an unimpeachable, externally developed definition to work with rather than just relying on circular bootstrapping!

This takes us back, doesn't it?

I'm sure some random guy who used his first post to dig up a thread from 2007 and vomit is hackneyed opinion on the unsuspecting forum is going to be a great contributor.
post #253 of 254
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Originally Posted by Arumbouyed View Post

"a painting done by a high school student or Jackson Pollock are both art where a beautifully constructed cabinet, car or watch are not." Talk about the "retardedness" of some of the comments. Of course a beautifully constructed cabinet, car or watch is art. It takes a high level of skill, training, creativity (sometimes) and can be aesthetically pleasing. That's what art is. The argument that art is determined by the artist is, to me, ridiculous. The fact that most people find the work of Pollock and most high school kids  crap is entirely the point. Pollock was a hack with no talent. I can drop some acid, throw a can of spaghettios against the wall, and call it art all day.  It may even hold some profound, deeper meaning for me and I can complain that the rest of the world just doesn't "get it", but that doesn't make it art.

You should try jerking off under a wooden staircase.
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Very late to this, nevermind...

Although is a pity there's no thread for exhibits or a museums recommendation...

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