I agree with the remarks above, except to say that they are really really excellent shirts. I have received four. The remark about the fabrics is on target I think. The service is horrible and getting worse, not better. I think there has been a total breakdown. My personal opinion, admittedly made from ignorence of Ricky's accounts, is that Ricky's policy of handling walk-in orders first is a mistake. I do not think people mind waiting a predictable, set period of time. But the uncertainty really makes ordering shirts unpleasant. And his lack of reliablity, for instance to send swatches, is a serious drawback. because the pictures on the Internet do not at all faithfully represent the actual fabrics, and this has nothing to do with dishonesty. HOWEVER, if I HAD to have bespoke, AND I did not care how long my shirts took to arrive, AND I didn't mind that about a fourth of my fabric choices would be duds (I am guessing), I think there is nothing better. IFF you are willing to spend ~180 dollars/shirt and you have to have them quickly and you want to see swatches first to know what you are getting, Liste Rouge seems an excellent choice based on my experience with them. My shirt fit as well as the Jantzen (slightly better) and of course I knew what fabric I was getting.