These came in today - this is my third order this year. 1. Jantzen*3131, Charcoal Gray Twill, 100's, 2 Ply, 100% Italian Cotton. 2. Jantzen*3081, Black Mini Gingham, 100's, 2 Ply, 100% Italian Cotton 3. #11, Super Fine White Plain Cotton, 140's, 2Ply, 100% Sea Island Cotton 4. Jantzen 8251, HKD$360 Blue luxury twill. Super 100's 2 ply,100% European Cotton I can't tell the difference between 1 and 4 - so the regular twill is just as good as the super fine. The Black Mini Gingham became a medium blue mini gingham. IMHO, The Sea Island cotton is nice thin fabirc for the summer time - almost silky like - so I stand by my earlier comments that jantzen is a hell alot better than those $200+ hand stitch shirts for the price. All in all - I like the shirts however they used by previous style as oppose to the new ones I ordered. But what the hell - I'm happy with it. One thing I'm not thrill about is that jantzen added a "Jantzen tailor" tag to the back of shirt - I'll probably cut that shit off.