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post #16 of 25
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AC makes a very nice shirt. My only poblem is that they fuse the collar bands. I have seen shirts with serious shrinkage problems when sent to a bad commercial laundry. I can't figure out how Jantzen can make money at $38 per shirt using the fabrics that they do. Are there up charges for those fancy details listed on the website. The price of labor in HK has risen over the last 10 years.  I know that AC makes a great deal of their work in Mainland china where labor is cheaper. The cost of fabric as well. I assume that Jantzen gets geat deals on closeout fabrics from the RTW factories. Not including the fabric. Can someone tell me how the two companies shirts differ? Damn. My labor cost in NYC is higher then their retail price including a decent fabric. No wonder no one wants to manufacture in this country anymore
Actually, Ascot Chang's shirts have non-fused collars and cuffs. Unless you mean something else by 'collar bands'? My info may be outdated, but if I am not wrong, both Ascot Chang and Jantzen have factories in Hong Kong, not mainland.  Even if Jantzen makes money, it's in terms of a few HK dollars; and I am sure he is betting on people like us ordering 10 shirts at a time.  My only experience with Jantzen did not run higher than its listed price even with monogram.  Also, since you are in the business, Jantzen took two days to fulfil my order of one shirt (ordered on Wednesday, ready in the store on Friday).   Don't complain about labour cost.  I always believe that you get-what-you-pay-for.  I am not a fan of 'Made in China' products.
post #17 of 25
Don't complain about labour cost. I always believe that you get-what-you-pay-for. I am not a fan of 'Made in China' products. It is getting harder to find anything still made in the USA. AC offers both fused and non fused linings. Unless it is discussed, they will fuse. AC opened a very modern factory in Mainland China. It is used mostly for RTW items. I have two older Chinese Brothers working for me. They used to do work for AC in HK. One still does their repairs in NYC. These two men are amazing. They don't teach them like this in HK anymore. They can do anything to a shirt. Customers have watched me talk to them. They are amazed that I get what I want from them. Of course we do not really speak much in English. We mostly speak in the language of shirt.
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post #19 of 25
It shouldn't shrink much unless it is washed harshly --- at local 'dry-cleaners' or commercial laundry. Fortunately, I wash all my shirts by my own hands or machine gentle cycle, and it's difficult to get my shirts to even shrink as much as the allowance built for.
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post #21 of 25
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Ascot Chang gives you a choice of fused or non-fused. They'll suggest a fused collar, but tell them no thanks. Alternatively, have them add an extra 1/4 or 1/2 an inch to allow for shrinkage. I suppose you couold ask them to replace those tight collars for you too.
post #22 of 25
I have my AC shirts done nonfused. As I recall, AC preferred to do fused but I requested nonfused. The shirts have hardy shrunk, including the collars, after many commercial washings. Some of my shirts are several years old. AC prides themselves on this. If your collars shrunk return them and insist they replace them. Assuming they are not more then a year or so old.
post #23 of 25
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It shouldn't shrink much unless it is washed harshly --- at local 'dry-cleaners' or commercial laundry.  Fortunately, I wash all my shirts by my own hands or machine gentle cycle, and it's difficult to get my shirts to even shrink as much as the allowance built for.
I do the old soak-'em-in-Woolite thing myself. I get rid of those collar-band and cuff stains with a toothbrush loaded with hand soap.
post #24 of 25
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If your collars shrunk return them and insist they replace them.  Assuming they are not more then a year or so old.
Shrinking more than the allowance definitely shows that something is wrong. You should bring it back to them.
post #25 of 25
For what it's worth, I have have bought many AC shirts over the years, and have never had a problem with shrinking collars. But then I've never sent them out to commercial laundries, where they do unspeakable things to nice shirts....
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