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post #1876 of 2114
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Still hemming and hawing about my next commission, but I have given more thought to commissioning a Tuxedo.

Bear with me. Here are the pertinent facts: (1) I am getting married this coming December; (2) my bride-to-be would like for me to wear a Tuxedo; (3) my Tuxedo that I normally wear is beat up and not up to snuff; (4) the rest of my Tuxedo rig is solid, i.e., shoes, shirt, studs, socks, bow; and (4) I wear black tie anywhere from five to ten times a year, for weddings and various galas.

In all honesty, but for the wedding, commissioning a Tuxedo would not be on my radar. However, in lieu of the foregoing facts, there are certainly some benefits.

First and foremost, because my current Tuxedo is not up to snuff, and because I am not renting from Men's Warehouse under any circumstance, I will have to purchase a new Tuxedo prior to the wedding. I estimate that the cost of RTW will be roughly half of what I would otherwise spend on bespoke. Maybe a bit less.

Second, the RTW option will likely be expensive, and will not have the details that I want. I have surveyed the RTW options, and there are negatives associated with each. Lapels too big, lapels to small, and, more importantly, none will have a proper vest. I will certainly be compromising, at least to an extent.

Third, I will wear it at least five to ten times a year. There are certain festivities where I will probably opt for my beater tuxedo, but I will nonetheless get wear out of it.

Fourth, it is my wedding, and this is as good of a splurge as any.

Fifth, a bespoke Tuxedo is unequivocally awesome.

What say you all?

For your wedding, of course do it. Your kids and grand-kids will look at those photos and say, look at grandpa how handsome he was. That's just one of many great reasons. Your bride will probably spend an insane amount on something she will only wear once (well, if you're a good husband that is) so why shouldn't you get a nice tux that you will wear a lot?
post #1877 of 2114
I would like to be associated with the words of the last speaker smile.gif
post #1878 of 2114
Go for it. A classic bespoke dinner jacket will give you pleasure for years.

And you will get to enjoy a lot of comments along the lines of "why doesn't my dinner jacket look as good as yours? I bought it at Armani/Brioni/etc?"
post #1879 of 2114
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For your wedding, of course do it. Your kids and grand-kids will look at those photos and say, look at grandpa how handsome he was. That's just one of many great reasons. Your bride will probably spend an insane amount on something she will only wear once (well, if you're a good husband that is) so why shouldn't you get a nice tux that you will wear a lot?

Thanks, I haven't thought about that! Definitely provided me new a new argument to explain my fiancee why I need to go to Italy to have a blue, DB bespoken for our wedding biggrin.gif
post #1880 of 2114
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Still hemming and hawing about my next commission, but I have given more thought to commissioning a Tuxedo.

Bear with me. Here are the pertinent facts: (1) I am getting married this coming December; (2) my bride-to-be would like for me to wear a Tuxedo; (3) my Tuxedo that I normally wear is beat up and not up to snuff; (4) the rest of my Tuxedo rig is solid, i.e., shoes, shirt, studs, socks, bow; and (4) I wear black tie anywhere from five to ten times a year, for weddings and various galas.

In all honesty, but for the wedding, commissioning a Tuxedo would not be on my radar. However, in lieu of the foregoing facts, there are certainly some benefits.

First and foremost, because my current Tuxedo is not up to snuff, and because I am not renting from Men's Warehouse under any circumstance, I will have to purchase a new Tuxedo prior to the wedding. I estimate that the cost of RTW will be roughly half of what I would otherwise spend on bespoke. Maybe a bit less.

Second, the RTW option will likely be expensive, and will not have the details that I want. I have surveyed the RTW options, and there are negatives associated with each. Lapels too big, lapels to small, and, more importantly, none will have a proper vest. I will certainly be compromising, at least to an extent.

Third, I will wear it at least five to ten times a year. There are certain festivities where I will probably opt for my beater tuxedo, but I will nonetheless get wear out of it.

Fourth, it is my wedding, and this is as good of a splurge as any.

Fifth, a bespoke Tuxedo is unequivocally awesome.

What say you all?

 

I say that a tuxedo is not a proper outfit for a wedding, at least in Europe. The tuxedo is a party outfit and the wedding is a celebration and the party comes afterwards, usually in the evening. A morning coat would be more appropriate.

 

Nonetheless, if you need a tux five times a year is more than justified to order a new one if the old one is already beaten up.

post #1881 of 2114
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post

For your wedding, of course do it. Your kids and grand-kids will look at those photos and say, look at grandpa how handsome he was. That's just one of many great reasons. Your bride will probably spend an insane amount on something she will only wear once (well, if you're a good husband that is) so why shouldn't you get a nice tux that you will wear a lot?
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I would like to be associated with the words of the last speaker smile.gif

Many thanks, guys. Leaves, I appreciate your thoughts and comments. If I go bespoke, my tuxedo will cost more than her dress. However, she picked the dress, not me smile.gif. And there are plenty of other details that are more important to her (see, e.g., centerpieces).
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Originally Posted by R.O. Thornhill View Post

Go for it. A classic bespoke dinner jacket will give you pleasure for years.

And you will get to enjoy a lot of comments along the lines of "why doesn't my dinner jacket look as good as yours? I bought it at Armani/Brioni/etc?"

I appreciate the thoughts! I agree with your sentiments. Also, thank you for sharing your pictures recently. I especially like that C&M jacket.
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Thanks, I haven't thought about that! Definitely provided me new a new argument to explain my fiancee why I need to go to Italy to have a blue, DB bespoken for our wedding biggrin.gif

Ha, I agree. I did not think about it from that perspective. I am very torn about the style, though.
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I say that a tuxedo is not a proper outfit for a wedding, at least in Europe. The tuxedo is a party outfit and the wedding is a celebration and the party comes afterwards, usually in the evening. A morning coat would be more appropriate.

Nonetheless, if you need a tux five times a year is more than justified to order a new one if the old one is already beaten up.

As an initial matter, it is an evening wedding. Church wedding, following by a reception in a historic home. I would prefer to wear white tie. But I am not commissioning a white tie rig. And in any event, white tie was vetoed by the bride.
post #1882 of 2114
Just ended this bespoke project: a cardigan-jacket made from heavy, double-faced cashmere (LL), no canvas at all and self-lined in the front, half-lined with silk (from Keyte) in the back which has also been used for the piping. Admittedly, it is quite an oddity – and mainly intended for home and very casual wear – but I have already enjoyed it a lot. Being a strange beast it no doubt helped that my tailor, Francesco Guida, understood my idea, and I also noticed that he was very proud of this creation smile.gif

Anyway, here are some photos from his sartoria as well of a (poor) fit pic. I will see if I can take some better photos myself, at least showing the inside of the jacket which is really a work of art.




The jacket inside-out:


And the back of the jacket:


And fit (in an uneven pose)
post #1883 of 2114
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Many thanks, guys. Leaves, I appreciate your thoughts and comments. If I go bespoke, my tuxedo will cost more than her dress. However, she picked the dress, not me smile.gif. And there are plenty of other details that are more important to her (see, e.g., centerpieces).
I appreciate the thoughts! I agree with your sentiments. Also, thank you for sharing your pictures recently. I especially like that C&M jacket.
Ha, I agree. I did not think about it from that perspective. I am very torn about the style, though.
As an initial matter, it is an evening wedding. Church wedding, following by a reception in a historic home. I would prefer to wear white tie. But I am not commissioning a white tie rig. And in any event, white tie was vetoed by the bride.

 

What a pity. Your own wedding would be the perfect occasion to emulate Adolphe Menjou in this picture. Wedding. Reception. Shoe cabinet tour. White tie of course. 

 

 

post #1884 of 2114
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Originally Posted by aristoi bcn View Post

What a pity. Your own wedding would be the perfect occasion to emulate Adolphe Menjou in this picture. Wedding. Reception. Shoe cabinet tour. White tie of course. 

From what I understand, the shoe tour has yet to be nixed.
post #1885 of 2114
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Still hemming and hawing about my next commission, but I have given more thought to commissioning a Tuxedo.

Bear with me. Here are the pertinent facts: (1) I am getting married this coming December; (2) my bride-to-be would like for me to wear a Tuxedo; (3) my Tuxedo that I normally wear is beat up and not up to snuff; (4) the rest of my Tuxedo rig is solid, i.e., shoes, shirt, studs, socks, bow; and (4) I wear black tie anywhere from five to ten times a year, for weddings and various galas.

In all honesty, but for the wedding, commissioning a Tuxedo would not be on my radar. However, in lieu of the foregoing facts, there are certainly some benefits.

First and foremost, because my current Tuxedo is not up to snuff, and because I am not renting from Men's Warehouse under any circumstance, I will have to purchase a new Tuxedo prior to the wedding. I estimate that the cost of RTW will be roughly half of what I would otherwise spend on bespoke. Maybe a bit less.

Second, the RTW option will likely be expensive, and will not have the details that I want. I have surveyed the RTW options, and there are negatives associated with each. Lapels too big, lapels to small, and, more importantly, none will have a proper vest. I will certainly be compromising, at least to an extent.

Third, I will wear it at least five to ten times a year. There are certain festivities where I will probably opt for my beater tuxedo, but I will nonetheless get wear out of it.

Fourth, it is my wedding, and this is as good of a splurge as any.

Fifth, a bespoke Tuxedo is unequivocally awesome.

What say you all?

Doesn't sound like you need a ton of convincing, but a few thoughts.

1. No Men's Wearhouse. You're already on the right path. As someone who's unfortunately been party to a MW friendly wedding, I can't emphasize how smart that refusal is.

2. If you can legitimately get 10ish wears per year, I think it's an eminently justifiable splurge.

3. As you said, it is your wedding. There's really no better reason than that.

4. Except for, as you mention, a bespoke tux is, indeed, fuckin awesome :bigstar:

 

What are the specs you're looking at for the tux/waistcoat, assuming you're also getting the latter?

 

Fwiw, while I believe it's considered less formal, something about a shawl collar tux sings to my soul...and it sounds something like Whitney hitting a high note.

post #1886 of 2114
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Originally Posted by ericgereghty View Post

Doesn't sound like you need a ton of convincing, but a few thoughts.
1. No Men's Wearhouse. You're already on the right path. As someone who's unfortunately been party to a MW friendly wedding, I can't emphasize how smart that refusal is.
2. If you can legitimately get 10ish wears per year, I think it's an eminently justifiable splurge.
3. As you said, it is your wedding. There's really no better reason than that.
4. Except for, as you mention, a bespoke tux is, indeed, fuckin awesome bigstar%5B1%5D.gif

What are the specs you're looking at for the tux/waistcoat, assuming you're also getting the latter?

I do not need much convincing. However, I do enjoy the encouragement.

1. - yeah, MW weddings are atrocious. I have been a groomsman or usher in about 7 weddings this past year, all of which required us to get MW tuxes. Nothing like paying a few hundred dollars to rent legitimate trash.

2. - I can always pull an @Andy57 and wear it to dinner as well.

3. - nod[1].gif

4. - nod[1].gif

I will certainly be getting a waistcoat. That is really one of my main reasons for wanting a bespoke tux. Probably a traditional double-breasted waistcoat. As for the jacket, SBPL is what I am leaning towards (although I love a shawl lapel as well). Most likely satin facings. Pleated, high waisted trousers. Leaning towards black. Although I do love midnight blue.

Something like the far left:

post #1887 of 2114

Great choice, especially if the vest is similar to Vox's.

 

Also, LOVE that jacket on far right as well.

post #1888 of 2114
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Originally Posted by aristoi bcn View Post

I say that a tuxedo is not a proper outfit for a wedding, at least in Europe. The tuxedo is a party outfit and the wedding is a celebration and the party comes afterwards, usually in the evening. A morning coat would be more appropriate.

Nonetheless, if you need a tux five times a year is more than justified to order a new one if the old one is already beaten up.

If the bride wants him to wear a tuxedo, then I say wear a tuxedo. I believe the OP is an American? It's a bit unconventional in Europe for sure, but it's becoming more and more common.
post #1889 of 2114
Actually, born Canadian - but marrying a southern Louisiana girl in southern Louisiana.
post #1890 of 2114
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

2. - I can always pull an @Andy57 and wear it to dinner as well.

 

:slayer:

 

It is a dinner jacket, after all. Why would you not?

 


The picture was not intended for publication, just a selfie we took. Last Saturday night at Le Toque, Napa.

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