Originally Posted by C&A
np. each time i started reading your posts i was actually hoping they would contain some new information on your ambrosi pants or your dealings with him. but none so far. could you please tell us what exactly was bad about the pants he made you?
Ok. I'm reluctant to do so as this is the "ongoing bespoke" thread and feel like your repeated ambrosi references are really hijacking this thing, C&A, but since you asked I am happy to oblige. This is the story of my pants.
Part 1: The measuring
The part where he measured me went fine. It usually does. I've never had a problem at the measuring phase. Well, that isn't true. I had planned to visit Gieves & Hawkes on my last visit to London but managed to lose my wallet and I felt that not having any money or credit cards might make my request to get measured seem a little insincere, but that is neither here nor there. With ambrosi, everything seemed to go fine at the measuring phase. He had chocolates. Yum!
Part 2: the fitting
For the first fitting (which didn't involve a full set of pants if I recall correctly, but was like a basted fitting with a shell), I thought they needed a lot of work. They were much too baggy and didn't have a shape like anything like other Ambrosi pants I had seen. I mentioned this and he noted that based on my attire at our fist meeting he had deduced that I'd liked english-style pants to he tried to make a similar pair. I explained that I couldn't remember what I was wearing at our first fitting, but that I was using him because I wanted his style. Ok, no problem, I fix them.
Part 3: the delivery of the ambrosi pants
Next, the ambrosi pants were delivered. No additional meeting to see if they turned out ok; just delivery by mail. Just a call from the armoury to pick 'em up. How odd. In any event, I was happy enough to receive them until I tried them on. The pants were much too long, much too baggy and didn't look anything like other Ambrosi pants I had seen. So I waited until his next visit and brought the pants in, and when I met with him I noted that the pants were much too long, much too baggy and didn't look anything like other Ambrosi pants I had seen. Salva explained that based on our fist meeting he had deduced that I'd liked english-style pants to he tried to make a similar pair. Uh oh. I explained that I couldn't remember what I was wearing at our first fitting, but that I was using him because I wanted his style. And he offered to fix them.
Part 4: the delivery of the ambrosi pants
Fast forward to the next delivery of the pants, which, in my view, didn't appear to have any tweaks and again were sent by mail. So I took them to the armoury where it was explained to me that it might be better and faster if the armoury staff did some pinning and marking and just send the pants to salva for execution. I suppose that is a little odd, but so be it. And so it was. But the pants came back shortly thereafter and did not turn out so well. They were different, but still problematic, with bunches of fabric around my rear end and they were still too long. I agreed to another meeting with salva on his next visit. During that visit he explained that based on our fist meeting he had deduced that I'd liked english-style pants to he tried to make a similar pair. He would fix them.
Part 5: the delivery of the thom browne pants
And fix them he did. And I ended up with a pair of pants that looked like those Thom Browne jobs that land at your ankles and show your socks as you walk around. I can't tell if anything else was wrong with them because pants that are four inches too short make it hard to focus on much else. And the pants cannot be modified any further at that point without a total remake. And so I got a refund.
So, those are things that were bad about the pants he made me. They didn't fit and he didn't seem to be very interested in making them fit. And they were $1100.
But the good things were that I dealt with the armoury, and they are fantastic and add value and stand behind their product.