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post #1681 of 2526
Ended up getting a 41.5 in the Sock Ramones, sized down half from a 42 in Geos. They fit perfect so everyone was half right, thanks for the sizing advice.
post #1682 of 2526
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Originally Posted by curiouscharles View Post

this is crazy hyperbole.

his outfit is fine, albeit somewhat uninspired.

[if anything, i'd ask him why he's wearing a leather jacket, when he doesn't look like a gangster, badass, motorcyclist, etc. - but that's a general fashion frustration of mine and i won't let it pollute this post].

kind of sounds like your general frustration with the poor stylings of the "goth" community is spilling over into your thoughts on this particular post.

[and i'd agree with you there, most people who buy this stuff are doing a very poor job putting together their outfits - too much replication of what they've seen work on others / in photos, not enough self reflection].

but save those for others, for those who deserve it.

and just to counter point, Rick & Julius go together very well.

and the Ramones are a widely successful shoe for the same reason Ann's classic sneakers are - variation on a converse theme, taking their classic look and making adjustments to the proportions and materials to make them something better.

I suppose I would say I'm wearing this leather jacket because I like it. I think the high neck intarsia looks beautiful. I love the paneling on the front, the way the jacket drapes on the body and fits on the shoulders because of its design, the ribbed cuffs - and most of all the dramatic look of the high collar. It's my favorite jacket.

Whether or not I can pull it off is another question of course. I certainly hope that it fits me well - but I would be lying if I said I didn't struggle with how dramatic the collar and jacket look. It's funny because that's the very reason I like the jacket.

Maybe I'm also wearing it because I want to look like a badass or project to others that I look like one. I know that sounds corny, but isn't that why we care about what we wear? So that others perceive a certain image of our selves?

What's wrong with wanting to look like a biker or a gangster - or project similar attitudes - even if I'm not one?

There's a quote that I saw on SZ that really resonated with me: Merz (5/22/09):"i'm a firm believer that the ultimate prevailing logic in design is 'does shit look sick as fuck' "

That said, I was hoping to achieve "dark and futuristic, but elegant" -- like how a citizen of Neo-korea in Cloud Atlas, or an urban space assassin might look. (I'm exaggerating and crossing into the realm of cosplay here, but I hope the crux of my point is still clear.) I thought my high neck intarsia would lend itself well to that theme given its design and treatment. The grungy waxed and multipocketed cargo pants were an obvious choice. I wore my Ramones to balance out the grungy look of the pants/jacket in hopes that the white contrast and sporty design would help make that "elegant" part that I wanted to achieve come through.

My inspiration was a Shui fit - the one where he's wearing a Geo with a sandwich pocket on the back, skinny black denim, Geobaskets in black/mill, and facing backwards with his foot lifted slightly.

The critical opinion of my outfit has generally been that it is uninspired or derivative. How can I make it look better and achieve that theme of "dark and futuristic, but elegant"?

Would it be better if I swapped the Ramones with creepers? But if the problem is how ubiquitous my pieces are like 0jsimps0n and others have suggested, wouldn't that be just as poor a choice?

How can I pull off the high neck intarsia better?
Edited by myfavcolorisblk - 5/4/16 at 5:35pm
post #1683 of 2526
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Originally Posted by myfavcolorisblk View Post


I suppose I would say I'm wearing this leather jacket because I like it. I think the high neck intarsia looks beautiful. I love the paneling on the front, the way the jacket drapes on the body and fits on the shoulders because of its design, the ribbed cuffs - and most of all the dramatic look of the high collar. It's my favorite jacket.

Whether or not I can pull it off is another question of course. I certainly hope that it fits me well - but I would be lying if I said I didn't struggle with how dramatic the collar and jacket look. It's funny because that's the very reason I like the jacket.

Maybe I'm also wearing it because I want to look like a badass or project to others that I look like one. I know that sounds corny, but isn't that why we care about what we wear? So that others perceive a certain image of our selves? There's a quote that I saw on SZ that goes something like "[this designer's ethos is] how can we make shit that looks fucking cool and dope as shit" that resonates with me.

What's wrong with wanting to look like a biker or a gangster - or project similar attitudes - even if I'm not one?

That said, I was hoping to achieve "dark and futuristic, but elegant" -- like how a citizen of Neo-korea in Cloud Atlas, or an urban space assassin might look. (I'm exaggerating and crossing into the realm of cosplay here, but I hope the crux of my point is still clear.) I thought my high neck intarsia would lend itself well to that theme given its design and treatment. The grungy waxed and multipocketed cargo pants were an obvious choice. I wore my Ramones to balance out the grungy look of the pants/jacket in hopes that the white contrast and sporty design would help make that "elegant" part that I wanted to achieve come through.

My inspiration was a Shui fit - the one where he's wearing a Geo with a sandwich pocket on the back, skinny black denim, Geobaskets in black/mill, and facing backwards with his foot lifted slightly.

The critical opinion of my outfit has generally been that it is uninspired or derivative. How can I make it look better and achieve that theme of "dark and futuristic, but elegant"?

Would it be better if I swapped the Ramones with creepers? But if the problem is how ubiquitous my pieces are like 0jsimps0n and others have suggested, wouldn't that be just as poor a choice?

How can I pull off the high neck intarsia better?


I would say wear your fit as much as possible.. Theres something about Rick when you first start to wear it that can seem like its wearing you but once you have gotten over any self judgements and outside judgements his clothes not only mold to your body but also your personality. The shoes are fine, but they are too crisp.. the posing doesn't look natural, possibly cause you're worried about the camera getting every piece of rick in the pic, but eventually you'll get comfortable with it. Creepers are always good, but I think thats something you should wait on. While creepers are indeed a bad ass boot, you'll never look bad ass if you don't feel bad ass. I don't like the julius pants but i don't think they are too different from Memphis pants or even the cargo pants.. Just wear everything as much as you can until you don't even think about it and eventually you can add new pieces. 

post #1684 of 2526
@myfav, that fit is good although the Ramones need some wear on them. If you want to look less Rick head to toe, swap them out. You are getting trolled so let it go.
post #1685 of 2526
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Originally Posted by myfavcolorisblk View Post

I suppose I would say I'm wearing this leather jacket because I like it. I think the high neck intarsia looks beautiful. I love the paneling on the front, the way the jacket drapes on the body and fits on the shoulders because of its design, the ribbed cuffs - and most of all the dramatic look of the high collar. It's my favorite jacket.

Whether or not I can pull it off is another question of course. I certainly hope that it fits me well - but I would be lying if I said I didn't struggle with how dramatic the collar and jacket look. It's funny because that's the very reason I like the jacket.

Maybe I'm also wearing it because I want to look like a badass or project to others that I look like one. I know that sounds corny, but isn't that why we care about what we wear? So that others perceive a certain image of our selves?

What's wrong with wanting to look like a biker or a gangster - or project similar attitudes - even if I'm not one?

There's a quote that I saw on SZ that really resonated with me: Merz (5/22/09):"i'm a firm believer that the ultimate prevailing logic in design is 'does shit look sick as fuck' "

That said, I was hoping to achieve "dark and futuristic, but elegant" -- like how a citizen of Neo-korea in Cloud Atlas, or an urban space assassin might look. (I'm exaggerating and crossing into the realm of cosplay here, but I hope the crux of my point is still clear.) I thought my high neck intarsia would lend itself well to that theme given its design and treatment. The grungy waxed and multipocketed cargo pants were an obvious choice. I wore my Ramones to balance out the grungy look of the pants/jacket in hopes that the white contrast and sporty design would help make that "elegant" part that I wanted to achieve come through.

My inspiration was a Shui fit - the one where he's wearing a Geo with a sandwich pocket on the back, skinny black denim, Geobaskets in black/mill, and facing backwards with his foot lifted slightly.

The critical opinion of my outfit has generally been that it is uninspired or derivative. How can I make it look better and achieve that theme of "dark and futuristic, but elegant"?

Would it be better if I swapped the Ramones with creepers? But if the problem is how ubiquitous my pieces are like 0jsimps0n and others have suggested, wouldn't that be just as poor a choice?

How can I pull off the high neck intarsia better?

nothing wrong with ubiquity, good pieces are good pieces - and the intarsia certainly is one!

also nothing wrong with wanting to look like a badass [& using leather pieces to play that out] - i'm just personally perplexed by the prevailing obsession with leather jackets among men [though it's honestly hardly perplexing let's be honest].

i also [also] don't think there's anything wrong with wearing, what the internet might call, derivative / uninspired / ubiquitous Rick[ish] looks - it might look that way to people who lurk fashion forums, but it's not like we see these clothes often on others irl [or hardly ever, at least] so there's no real point in pleasing us.

i don't think i could give any better advice than what scanner has already said - "Just wear everything as much as you can until you don't even think about it and eventually you can add new pieces. "
post #1686 of 2526

@myfavcolorisblk this may sound lame, but the best way to pull off that jacket is to not be so insecure. Just wear your clothes and get comfortable wearing them. And as for the other stuff... how much time would spend listening to jerks in real life?

post #1687 of 2526
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I really appreciate it!
post #1688 of 2526

@myfavcolorisblk I actually like the fit you posted–the exaggerated proportions give it a kind of hyper-masculine aspect. Part of the problem might be how clean/new the clothing looks.

post #1689 of 2526

Count me in as another member of the "Count Chocula" high neck club. Just bought my first Rick leather piece: high-neck Geo oiled calf.

post #1690 of 2526
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Originally Posted by happyriverz View Post

Count me in as another member of the "Count Chocula" high neck club. Just bought my first Rick leather piece: high-neck Geo oiled calf.

Fit pic?

I feel like the Intarsia (even the high neck) is definitely the most versatile Rick jacket, in that it can go with a lot of other styles, especially if you get a more "neutral" finish.
post #1691 of 2526
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Originally Posted by gustavobradley View Post


Fit pic?

I feel like the Intarsia (even the high neck) is definitely the most versatile Rick jacket, in that it can go with a lot of other styles, especially if you get a more "neutral" finish.


I just like the pocket design/placement on the Geo better than the Intarsia.

post #1692 of 2526

Nothing wrong with that. The neck on the Geo is a little wider, isn't it?

post #1693 of 2526
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Originally Posted by gustavobradley View Post
 

Nothing wrong with that. The neck on the Geo is a little wider, isn't it?


Yeah, and it looks more spread out (for lack of a better phrase) when you turn it down compared to the high neck Intarsia that I've seen, but the difference isn't significant. For me, the Geo just looked slightly more dramatic, and thus less neutral like you said.

post #1694 of 2526
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Originally Posted by happyriverz View Post


Yeah, and it looks more spread out (for lack of a better phrase) when you turn it down compared to the high neck Intarsia that I've seen, but the difference isn't significant. For me, the Geo just looked slightly more dramatic, and thus less neutral like you said.

Yeah, I can definitely see that. The Geo actually reminds me of some of the Julius (lol) funnel necks from previous seasons.

Also someone please sell me a high neck Intarsia ;_;
post #1695 of 2526
alls i knows is - it's hard af to get the geo collar to look "right" when worn open.

or at least, hard to get it to look right in photos.

always end up just zipping the damn thing all the way up, and thinking to myself "gosh, you really don't fall open like the intarsia do you?".

sick jacket still...
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