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post #106 of 118
If must to be less of $100K then where I live is no possible this two, but I must to propose BAC Mono e Porsche 911 Carrera (basic model).
post #107 of 118
Under $100k? Tons of choices. Off the top of my head:

Mazda Miata
Subaru BRZ / Scion FRS
Chevrolet Corvette
Porsche Boxster / Cayman
Alfa Romeo 4C (pending)
BMW 1M (recently deceased)

Hard to understand the 911 as a choice here, when the Boxster and Cayman are dynamically superior, almost as fast in a straight line, and significantly cheaper.
post #108 of 118
Dynamically superior? Pssh. Not stock at least. A tamer ride in the rain is about the only thing a Cayman has over the 911.

I actually cant think of a way to design a course or slalom where the Cayman comes out on top. The power, breaking, tires, wheelbase, lower height, and better launch traction from the rear engine are too much to overcome.

And Ill pretend you didnt mention the Boxter in the same sentence.
post #109 of 118
The only thing the 911 has over the Boxster/Cayman is power. The rear engine layout is intrinsically inferior. With same power, the smaller, mid-engined cars would outperform without qualification. This has been born out by pretty much every single automotive publication out there.

Why wouldn't I mention the Boxster in the same sentence as the Cayman? They are mechanical twins.
post #110 of 118
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Under $100k? Tons of choices. Off the top of my head:

Mazda Miata
Subaru BRZ / Scion FRS
Chevrolet Corvette
Porsche Boxster / Cayman
Alfa Romeo 4C (pending)
BMW 1M (recently deceased)

Hard to understand the 911 as a choice here, when the Boxster and Cayman are dynamically superior, almost as fast in a straight line, and significantly cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post

Dynamically superior? Pssh. Not stock at least. A tamer ride in the rain is about the only thing a Cayman has over the 911.

I actually cant think of a way to design a course or slalom where the Cayman comes out on top. The power, breaking, tires, wheelbase, lower height, and better launch traction from the rear engine are too much to overcome.

And Ill pretend you didnt mention the Boxter in the same sentence.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

The only thing the 911 has over the Boxster/Cayman is power. The rear engine layout is intrinsically inferior. With same power, the smaller, mid-engined cars would outperform without qualification. This has been born out by pretty much every single automotive publication out there.

Why wouldn't I mention the Boxster in the same sentence as the Cayman? They are mechanical twins.


For 911 rear engine is raison for to <3 !
post #111 of 118
The rear-engined layout is no doubt at the heart of the 911's character. If you move the engine, it ain't a 911 anymore, no matter how it might look from the outside. However, the mid-engine layout of the Boxster/Cayman is nonetheless intrinsically superior. We love the 911 for its character and evolved capability, not because its layout makes good sense. It's telling that nobody else uses a rear-engine layout. Even Porsche switches to mid-engine for its supercars.
post #112 of 118
You can answer this question a couple of different ways - what's the benchmark for some comprehensive objective performance criteria (like a Nurburgring lap time), or some more subjective criteria like what car under 100k gets my panties wet or whatever.

The answer for the first one is the GTR I believe, at least for the US market and probably not for long as the new ZO6's get tested

There is no singular answer on the second criteria but my answer would probably be the new Cayman. Is the Exige R under $100k?
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post #115 of 118
If Nurburgring lap time is the criteria, then a 2009-2010 Viper ACR is the logical choice.

Here's one: (buy it now for $82,500)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yellow-ACR-Coupe-Only-173-miles-1-only-20-Yellow-produced-/221238415010?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3382d64ea2




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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

You can answer this question a couple of different ways - what's the benchmark for some comprehensive objective performance criteria (like a Nurburgring lap time), or some more subjective criteria like what car under 100k gets my panties wet or whatever.

The answer for the first one is the GTR I believe, at least for the US market and probably not for long as the new ZO6's get tested

There is no singular answer on the second criteria but my answer would probably be the new Cayman. Is the Exige R under $100k?
post #116 of 118
^good call, I forgot about the ACR. didn't realize they were fairly obtainable by the common (slightly wealthy) man
post #117 of 118
Edit: I just realized that I'd be better served posting this in the "cars we drive" thread.

The Viper ACR is a beast, that's a fantastic price for one... were we discussing brand new under $100k or any car under that?
post #118 of 118
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the Caterham Superlights.
You won't get more fun, feel, control and acceleration out of any car at their price point.
Colin Chapman was a genius!
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