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You don't want to dress like a sushi chef? puzzled.gif
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Originally Posted by wogbog View Post

Didn't realize how cool Visvim was until this thread.

A lot of it is hyped, a lot of it can be ugly, but overall I think the Vis design ethos and direction is very solid. There are always very, very solid pieces and just the attention to detail makes it pretty much a perfect brand for SF nerds, in my opinion
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The Visvim bandana/kerchief down jacket: worth it or not?

I'm getting a little pre-occupied with finding one. Always found it interesting, but maybe a little/a lot busy. Now though, I think I can rock it. Anybody have any experience with it? How is possible that this is not gonna just let the down out? Is the bandana fabric sewn on another fabric? How't the sizing?

Anybody wanna dissuade me from my hunt?

I own a kerchief non bandana down jacket. It fits true to size in length but is extremely slim in the arms. Its supposed to be worn as a regular shirt ie just over a tee but if you wanna wear it as a jacket size up.

Down feathers have not leaked from my jacket yet, it has one of the thinnest layers of down baffling of any down outer I've ever worn, don't expect this to be a heavy outerwear piece. Hiroki often layers the kerchief with many other pieces, but he also has stick arms.

The bandana print is not too garish in person. They dye the bandanas in mud dye before sewing the jacket. However, it is extremely fragile because it's composed of all vintage bandanas from the 50s and 60s. It's a tough pill to swallow, but if you own kerchief bandana you have to assume regular wear will cause at least one of the panels to give out in less than a year. visvims recommendation is to patch the jacket yourself with vintage bandana scraps. Even my lhamo came with parts of the fabric mended when it arrived, just the nature of true vintage.

As I mentioned, I own a bandana lhamo and live in sf and maybe get a couple weird looks but the gang stuff is so old it doesn't really apply any longer. Just don't wear in watts.

Kerchief down jacket size 3. I'm around 6'1" 170


Natural dye moleskin coverall w/ bandana lhamo

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do you have a fit of just your plain lhamo? What'd you end up going, TTS or size up?
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As a complete newbie to Visvim, I am thinking to get a lhamo shirt as a first piece - probably like anybody else. I do like the lighter washed denim (?) versions as it would make a fantastic stand alone or layer piece and will likely go well with the EG/ Post Overalls/ orSlow/ etc. stuff I usually wear.

 

 

 

Should I research the usual retailers and see what is available? Or rely on ebay et. al. as those were previous seasons? You guys mentioned tight arms and I have, bigger arms. How big a challenge is it? A size 4  of the Kilgore and Artifact jackets seem to fit me well.

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

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I own a kerchief non bandana down jacket. It fits true to size in length but is extremely slim in the arms. Its supposed to be worn as a regular shirt ie just over a tee but if you wanna wear it as a jacket size up.

Down feathers have not leaked from my jacket yet, it has one of the thinnest layers of down baffling of any down outer I've ever worn, don't expect this to be a heavy outerwear piece. Hiroki often layers the kerchief with many other pieces, but he also has stick arms.

The bandana print is not too garish in person. They dye the bandanas in mud dye before sewing the jacket. However, it is extremely fragile because it's composed of all vintage bandanas from the 50s and 60s. It's a tough pill to swallow, but if you own kerchief bandana you have to assume regular wear will cause at least one of the panels to give out in less than a year. visvims recommendation is to patch the jacket yourself with vintage bandana scraps. Even my lhamo came with parts of the fabric mended when it arrived, just the nature of true vintage.

I think this might have done it. I'll hold off until I see one in person then. I don't have stick arms, and all that I can find online of these things now are second-hand versions, so the chances of the bandanas ripping open are even higher. Where am I gonna get mud dyed bandanas in Bumblefuck NC?!

Fucking awesome looking things, though.
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Natural dye moleskin coverall w/ bandana lhamo

This looks f*cking awesome!

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do you have a fit of just your plain lhamo? What'd you end up going, TTS or size up?

Don't have a fit as I usually only wear as a layering piece, but I went true to size. Lhamos run short, they are intended to be short to fit above a t-shirt or buttondown. Don't let the length measurements scare you. Unless you work out a ton, you should go tts.

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As a complete newbie to Visvim, I am thinking to get a lhamo shirt as a first piece - probably like anybody else. I do like the lighter washed denim (?) versions as it would make a fantastic stand alone or layer piece and will likely go well with the EG/ Post Overalls/ orSlow/ etc. stuff I usually wear.

Should I research the usual retailers and see what is available? Or rely on ebay et. al. as those were previous seasons? You guys mentioned tight arms and I have, bigger arms. How big a challenge is it? A size 4  of the Kilgore and Artifact jackets seem to fit me well.

Thanks,

Mike

To be frank, don't wear visvim if you have huge arms or a built figure. I know its harsh but its no different than those that try to wear saint laurent or dior homme hedi era and are in great shape. The clothes aren't build for that type of person so it never works out. 99% of the time, sizing up causes the items to be too long. Hiroki designed size 4 to fit people who are like 6'2"-6'4". Size 3 (large) always has a sleeve length of 25", size 4 is usually longer at 26" which is that of a true XL. It's not the end of the world if you are hellbent on wearing visvim, I would just advise against it so you aren't disappointed.

They do the one-wash lhamo every season, try that first. Its a basic denim lhamo in a soft proprietary denim fabric. Good for layering or as an overshirt.

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I think this might have done it. I'll hold off until I see one in person then. I don't have stick arms, and all that I can find online of these things now are second-hand versions, so the chances of the bandanas ripping open are even higher. Where am I gonna get mud dyed bandanas in Bumblefuck NC?!

Fucking awesome looking things, though.

You can buy the same vintage bandanas on ebay for around $10-$25 condition varying greatly. Then you can buy some mordant and buy some natural japanese mud dye and do it yourself. Dying fabrics is pretty easy if you are actually interested...

http://www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/natural-dyes-from-plants-and-insects.html (Instructions are listed here)

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This looks f*cking awesome!

Thanks wink.gif I sold the coverall because I was low on cash and never thought I'd wear it. Sort of a bad move but it was a great jacket. Insane patina, dyed in a heavily diluted indigo bath then dipped in natural persimmon dye.
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They do the one-wash lhamo every season, try that first. Its a basic denim lhamo in a soft proprietary denim fabric. Good for layering or as an overshirt.
You can buy the same vintage bandanas on ebay for around $10-$25 condition varying greatly. Then you can buy some mordant and buy some natural japanese mud dye and do it yourself. Dying fabrics is pretty easy if you are actually interested...

http://www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/natural-dyes-from-plants-and-insects.html (Instructions are listed here)

Shit, the search continues, then…

BTW, I'm at 5' 7", and although I'll wear a size S in J Crew, I don't think I have stick arms, was looking for a size 3, you think that's the right size?
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Nah you're probably a 2 or even a 1, but more likely a 2 because of your build. 3 will be too big
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Yeah I was in between sizes on my 101 indigo kano. frown.gif Sleeves were slightly too long and I was afraid to alter.
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Originally Posted by Fycus View Post

Don't have a fit as I usually only wear as a layering piece, but I went true to size. Lhamos run short, they are intended to be short to fit above a t-shirt or buttondown. Don't let the length measurements scare you. Unless you work out a ton, you should go tts.

Cool. I have one in a size up, and I don't think it's too long. I know it's cut short, but I think with the Lhamo it's easy to be a little more fluid with sizing advice depending on the desired fit. I just really hate how short they can be. I just like to see sizes people buy and the resulting fit!

Dharma Trading is an amazing place. Their natural dyes are very cool, and I've also had experience with their chemical dyes that have held deep black for 6+ months, which never really happens. I was toying with the idea of buying some indigo from them at some point
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Originally Posted by tahonng View Post

I'm at 5' 7", and although I'll wear a size S in J Crew, I don't think I have stick arms, was looking for a size 3, you think that's the right size?

you are size 2
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I like the flannel lhamos, I bring mine when I'm traveling, so easy to throw on:

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maybe that was posted before but I just realized that the insoles are basically removable on most folk models. I just noticed some empty space around my TWO boots insole and took the risk to remove it with a knife....it went away pretty easily (cork footbed) and the 11 boots now fit like 12 and are just fine really ! Cochise do have the cork footbed, Wermatt don't (I don't own the Virgill anymore but pretty sure FW11 fersion didint have it).


Edited by Emixam - 7/15/14 at 9:03am
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